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By Avery Anapol @ TheHill.com, Aug. 15
White supremacist rally leader Jason Kessler was interrupted while filming a livestream on Tuesday by his father, who scolded his son for recording in his bedroom. Kessler was filming an interview with Patrick Little, a neo-Nazi who ran an unsuccessful campaign for Senate in California. “Hey! You get out of my room!” Kessler’s father is heard to shout during the livestream, a clip of which was shared on Vox. [....]
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Looks like Alex Jones might be the next one using his dad's room:
FCC shuts down Alex Jones’s flagship radio station @ TheHill.com
After reading the article I have a quibble with the headline, what is described there doesn't exactly fit "flagship". and there's really no freedom of speech issues involved, more like an illegal pirate radio station being run on the fly with a fine against it nobody wants to pay.
Whatever. Twitter CEO was giving interviews allover the place today on how they basically have Alex on a 7 day "time out" for being naughty.
by artappraiser on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 1:59am
We can laugh at the two racists in the video. We have to remain vigilant because there are Klan and Nazis awearing suits and working next to us. They are calling police on black people for invading their space. They are using Stand Your Ground Laws to shoot unarmed black people. They are running for political office openly stating their white supremacisf positions. They are in the White House.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 8:04am
At the same time, let's get real. There are 325 million people in the country. The white people calling police on black people in the news is maybe a dozen incidents in a year. Multiply by 10 just for giggles, with 3 people per incident, that's still only 1 per 10,000 people.
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 9:12am
Sigh
When you are sending your child out into the world, the above is not comforting. The events are random. When it strikes, the impact is 100%.Take the example of John Crawford. He was killed within seconds by police because he was carrying a toy gun sold at Walmart while talking on his cell phone. A white guy called the police.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/04/ohio-police-officer-walmart-beavercreek-sean-williams
The message is that black life is not valued. How can you be this dismissive?
Edited to correct structure of first sentence
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 10:22am
And then there's the trio that had the incident about AirBnB's where they didn't die.
How can you be so undramatic?
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 11:19am
I don’t find any humor in the response.
Tamir Rice and John Crawford died after seconds of an interaction with police. The calls are not benign. You have to realize this. The callers know that what they are doing is keeping blacks in their place. Police love intimidation. They enjoyed arresting the two black men at the Starbucks even though the businessman they were meeting showed up and verified their meeting.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 11:32am
A NY state legislator is sponsoring a bill to make bogus call on black people a crime after he was harassed by police while handing out campaign literature.
https://www.theroot.com/ny-state-senator-wants-to-make-calling-911-on-black-fol-1828389824
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 1:56pm
Good news, not bad news, that he's doing that, instead of being afraid to do anything about it?
Just like it was good news that Starbucks Inc. didn't just shrug the whole thing off. A decade ago they would have.
You see glass half empty and emptying more with every news story you post. I see a lot of half glass full in most of the stories you post.
The culture is changing as old racists die and things become more multi-culti. It is not long before the majority would be answering "other" on the traditional census question about race.
There's two ways to go as I see it.
Cower in fear believing that Trump is taking the country back to the old days, become more tribal, and helping Trump escalate the situation like he loves to do, where tribes scream "where's the outrage?" at each other. Escalate the tribal and take several steps back from the general arc of progress Feed the fear by looking for as much scary stuff you can find and repeating it and screaming "things are getting worse than Jim Crow, where's the outrage?"
Realize that the culture is changing and because of that, what used to be taken for granted as just the way things are is being daily questioned and reported. Often by ordinary citizens who are no longer afraid, they have power of their cell phone cameras. Take positive advantage of that situation. But realize that as the old powers-that-be lose power some are going to act out against that in order to get an irrational counter reaction that will help them keep that power a little longer. Stop helping them feed the fear of the other, stop promoting more tribalism.
by artappraiser on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 3:29pm
WTF
Blacks are voting out district attorneys and pressuring police departments for change. Where have you been?
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 3:15pm
White Arabic grandma tasered for foraging herbs and spices in woods with a kitchen knife. Good thing she wasn't picking mushrooms or they would have locked her up for conspiracy to trade in a controlled substance.
These police, very professional. The Barney Fifes have won.
https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/08/16/us/georgia-police-taser-woman-dandelion...
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 08/17/2018 - 1:14am
oh geez they must not have ever had an immigrant granny around and never had a children's book growing up, and never watched an Anthony Bourdain episode that's for sure! for chrissake that is what old world grannies do! from the Dominican Republic to Poland to Morocco they always have a knife in that apron pocket! You never know when an onion needs peeling.
And yes it boggles the mind what required the tasering? She was all pumped up from daily weight lifting at the gym, they were afraid to grab her by the arm, or what? Strong as bull like Uncle Tanoose?
oh geez again, Barney, I remember getting aggravated with him as a little kid, he was soooo damn aggravating I wished they would make his disappear from the show. I can only imagine if Barney had been around to "fight terrorism.' He'd blow Sasha Cohen's Morad character away as far as antics are concerned.
by artappraiser on Fri, 08/17/2018 - 3:11am
well, i know a lot of grannies in nearby forests who'd be tased up the ass by now, so yeah. guess the cop thought she was the ornery lady with shotgun from Beverly Hillbillies. All our 50's/60's sitcoms come back to haunt us.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 08/17/2018 - 3:26am
Absurdities galore, here's grannie's mug shot, right out of central casting:
From story with absurd headline:
Georgia Police Dept. Defends Use of Taser on 87-Year-Old Woman
@ NYTimes.com, Aug. 18
by artappraiser on Sat, 08/18/2018 - 6:32pm
p.s. I checked it out further and found this police chief of Chatsworth, he is apparently auditioning for the role Barney Fife in some remake of the Andy Griffith Show he's hoping gets done.
by artappraiser on Sat, 08/18/2018 - 6:44pm
Most parents do have to teach their children that: there are bad people in the world. And they are not going to be able to get rid of all bad people
If they inhabit a closed tribe with an echo chamber, they will only see a pattern of certain kinds of bad people and not the others because of irrational fear affecting their judgment.
This does cause societal problems.
And then there's that some parents end up with bad children and don't know what to do about it except tell them to get out of their room if they are going to livestream interviews with fellow white supremacists. Others might end up with bigger problems than their child being a protest-organizing white supremacist. like having to say: I don't know why he joined that gang and where he got that gun and why he shot that dude.
Yes fear of the other tribe can color your world and turn people paranoid where they think the other tribe is dangerous and evil and they have no power to do anything about it except go more tribal. Rinse and repeat, vicious and escalating circle.
Sometimes it's good to show the flip side, where the supposedly dangerous "other" of fevered tribal imagination is exposed as being ridiculous. That being terrorized by a feeble idiot is helping his feeble cause, that taking him seriously and being afraid of him is what he wants. (That's why they call it terrorism!)
Then there's the problem of those tribes who do have some actual authoritarian power like: blue lines. Not black or white but blue.
by artappraiser on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 2:50pm
Most black parents the “The talk” with their children about the police.
https://www.vox.com/2016/8/8/12401792/police-black-parents-the-talk
Studies show that people see black children as larger and more threatening
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-black-men-threatening-20170313-story.html
More unarmed black people are killed by police than other ethnic groups
https://www.vox.com/cards/police-brutality-shootings-us/us-police-racism
Black children are disciplined more harshly in school.
https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/4/5/17199810/school-discipline-race-racism-gao
When people from other tribes tell black people that they are in an echo chamber, that message is rejected. Blacks look for allies to help solve the problem. Most of that support comes from within the tribe.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 3:13pm
I've read all those links and more on the issue for decades and the problem has been discussed ad nauseum and to points of extreme emotional upheaval in my own family for the same time period.
And I venture a guess everyone on this site knows all that stuff.
The thing is: that you have a list of links prepared all ready on your hard drive to just throw out there in a New York minute shows how you are not open to really looking at anything from any other perspective but are just looking to preach in a way that is insulting to the intelligence of readers of your comments.
by artappraiser on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 3:36pm
You know all this stuff.
That is the sad part.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 3:37pm
Well you're no different than me just posting about it on dagblog. Except that you think preaching at me is going to change the culture as it is? What can't you see about how you are not "speaking truth to power" here? That we are just analyzers of the news. Where all but one user has long ago been voting on your side. But that nobody here is going to go forth and spew your collection of links and make them go viral. All you seem to want is amen call and response, to preach to the converted, not to discuss anything like a real individual person with a sense of humor, a driven preacher or soldier what you see as a war against racism. I refuse to be a cog in your program on what to do with this site that Michael has provided for us, it seems silly to me that one would think that would do any good about racism. I am not going to do "mega dittoes" nor "Yes I am outraged, give me a pitchfork!" That's what the "Blog Now" section is for for those who want to practice forming a new tribe.
by artappraiser on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 3:59pm
Not only do I know it, I have strong personal opinions about it.
I think is tragically and devastatingly stupid of any parent to teach a child of color to racially profile for safety purposes!
All children once they are pre-teens should be wary of police officers as my own father taught me.
A child of color should be taught more sophisticated profiling and that they cannot trust their safety to one color of skin. That the cop is not necessarily his friend just because he is black or Hispanic. That nice African immigrant priest might be too nice because he is an abuser. That that crazy white evangelical lady could be his savior because she just loves all children and thinks they are cute or could be his enemy once he is bigger than her. And that if you want to be the most safe, you need to dress appropriately for the cultural environment you are in. Clothing sends messages and we all know it.
by artappraiser on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 4:25pm
Now that did make me laugh
From “How Not to Get Shot: And Other Advice From White People” by D.L. Hughley
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072QX4N6T/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
Edit to add:
The talk does include warnings about not trusting strangers and more recently, cautions about teachers and clergy. It is not and either or situation. Authority figures are no longer granted automatic respect.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 5:32pm
child safety learnin' continued:
All male teens of all colors now need to be taught not to drag the fantasy world of gangsta rap and porn where guys have bitches and hos into the workplace or even basic social situations. As it's no longer a situation where they might just lose their job, now they may end up arrested and/or with major lawsuits against them and their family and or with prison terms or sex offender status for the rest of their lives.
All white male teens who are bullied geeks need to be taught that they will not only become more hated losers if they adopt white supremacist signifiers, that doing so may subject them to violent attacks even if they are not doing anything at all.
All children who use public transportation need to know the story of 9/11 and to understand why there are signs saying "if you see something, say something" and to know that they should not joke about bombings with a TSA agent or security guard even if he's a "bro". That it's sort of like not joking about school shootings but more complicated.
All Muslim children....
etc.
by artappraiser on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 7:04pm
So instead of regulating aggressive police we should put a dress code on teenagers?
Edit to add:
How ould your dress code have helped John Crawford?
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 7:47pm
No one on this thread was talking about regulation and I am not interested in doing so.
I was talking about what parents might teach their children about how to wisely profile the people they come across in the world in order to better their chances against the bad people in the world who will always exist.
I don't happen to think teaching children of color to cower in fear of all whiteys and stay protected in a cultural ghetto is the wisest choice in attempting to help them live a full and relatively happy life. I think it needs to be a little more sophisticated than that to help. I also have a tendency to think such tribalism will exacerbate the situation and make things more dangerous.
I have no problem with profiling all police of all colors as possibly dangerous, I think that's wise.
by artappraiser on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 7:58pm
I provided a link to black parents discussing the Talk. No one did what you suggested.
Edit to add:
Your dress code would not have saved John Crawford
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 8:04pm
and you are complaining that whatever is being done is not working. That's really all you do here, complain "where's the outrage about this, whiteys at dagblog?" You never see any of the news as glass half full, how more attention to this plight means: more people care. Starbucks shutting down for the whole day to try to retrain all their staff is nothing to you, even though it would have never happened a decade ago. But an amen megadittos from one of six whiteys at dagblog that things are worse than they ever were in the history of this country for the "Afro American community", now that is something that really matters!
by artappraiser on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 8:09pm
There is much to complain about. We complain about things the Trump does. We can complain about racial issues. The idea is not to be satisfied with our current situation. We don’t accept the status quo.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 8:18pm
I would like to add that in this point in time in the culture it is a wise choice to profile anyone wearing white supremacist signifiers as a real loser. But to be very aware that losers are sometimes mean mad because they have become losers and might do crazy shit.
by artappraiser on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 8:03pm
White supremacists are wearing khakis and sports coats
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 8:05pm
so you are advising your children to stay away from these types because it is highly likely they have a gun or a knife?
You are switching the topic from physical safety to general discrimination. Metaphorical backstabbing in office politics and discrimination in hiring is not the same thing at all as "this man may have a knife or a gun and may kill you" or "this kind of gang might assault you."
Don't want to play. You don't take thoughts about remedying anything seriously. All you want to do is express outrage about: everything to do with living while black. And mho, by doing that you have exhibited an irrational level of fear, scaring yourself silly. Your answer to Peracles comment is just another of many examples. I don't want to be a party to fear mongering about "the other", I refuse that role.
by artappraiser on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 8:40pm
Sigh
You talked about skinheads. I pointed out that white supremacists are hiding in plain sight. Think about the lawyers who went on a racist rant in NYC. Jordan was gunned down playing music. He was doing what teenagers do. Akai Gurley was shot by police In NYC.
Black parents have been advising their children on how to stay safe for generations. The talk and variations on the talk are nothing new. How have you missed this fact?
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 9:01pm
P.S. What I really think is that if there are too many people out there like you selling outrage as the Dem party message. As opposed to those who are doing positive things to change the situation like running for office and showing the majority will vote for them. That it's not as bad as you continually try to say it is here.
Lighten up at least on Dagblog, get some humor. I would understand the jihad approach if you were posting it at Red State, but not here. Can you not see that everyone except one user here is an ally as far as what you care about? Why are you bound and determined to preach until you turn people off?
You should have welcomed this news of the exposure of a major white supremacist figure as a ridiculous child man.
Instead you just use it as another chance to preach: be afraid, be very afraid, all is a horror and the sky is falling.If you did this canvassing for votes at my door, I would be turned off enough to wonder if your candidate was any good.
by artappraiser on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 3:45pm
Gee, most of the people I canvas agree that we are in a Constitutional crisis. With others you state the candidate’s position on issues and move on.
by rmrd0000 on Thu, 08/16/2018 - 8:21pm