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MSNBC: Manafort reaches deal?
By Richard Day on Thu, 09/13/2018 - 6:28pm |Paul Manafort just gives up the ghost; tomorrow?
I am actually viewing MSNBC.
But it looks like something is going on.
URL:
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/us-politics/ny-news-trump-manafort-plea-deal-mueller-20180913-story.html
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Scuttlebutt from my feed:
Kirschner is Fmr 30-year federal prosecutor w/ the DC US Attorney's Office , DC Chief of Homicide & Army JAG, also often does talking head duty on cable tv news Bertrand is a name everyone should know if they follow Mueller stuff
You should know who he is. Probably doesn't want to elaborate for a reason.
by artappraiser on Thu, 09/13/2018 - 7:18pm
Yeah AA, they keep saying ABC reports.
Everybody is afraid.
hahahah
WHY NOT BE AFRAID.
There is no frickin way that the prosecutors (or persecutors as the repubs put it) are going to give this prick a free ride or a ride without cooperation in my humble opinion.
I do feel that this is fun to watch as criminals deal with the government.
by Richard Day on Thu, 09/13/2018 - 7:33pm
I don't usually look at directly at Trump's tweets, I just check out the ones that get retweeted by media I trust. But I think tomorrow morning I might like to check them for any further signs of meltdown.
by artappraiser on Thu, 09/13/2018 - 7:37pm
Here is the ABC "Breaking" tweet of their story. There are lots of funny replies on it, as one might expect:
by artappraiser on Thu, 09/13/2018 - 8:01pm
Good cite!
This is breaking news for a change, as they say.
by Richard Day on Thu, 09/13/2018 - 8:08pm
From Josh over at TPM Prime
As you can see ABC News is reporting a ‘tentative’ plea deal between Paul Manafort and the Office of Special Counsel. Assuming this is accurate and moves from tentative to real by tomorrow, I think there’s good reason to expect that is not what it seems. This isn’t Manafort flipping on Trump. It’s Manafort locking in his pardon.
by ocean-kat on Thu, 09/13/2018 - 8:56pm
I cannot read Josh behind the prime wall but it is hard to imagine prosecutors going this far down the road and agreeing to avoid trial in exchange for a simple admission of guilt with no other benefit.
by moat on Thu, 09/13/2018 - 9:13pm
same; I can see a number of people voicing skepticism as well in reply to Josh's post of the story on his twitter feed and he is choosing not to reply back so far, so we'll have to wait and see! Just like we used to have to wait for the morning for the newspaper, remember?
by artappraiser on Thu, 09/13/2018 - 10:14pm
I was ambivalent about posting this since it's behind prime but I thought there might be more people here signed up given the connection so many of us have to the readers blog section years ago. But there's also some bad blood about that too so...
Josh has written a few articles on this topic recently, especially since Giuliani reveal that President Trump’s personal legal team has a joint defense agreement with Paul Manafort’s attorneys, allowing them to share confidential information, former Mayor Rudy Giuliani told Politico. I can't summarize his arguments to support his contention here nor do I necessarily agree with all his arguments. But he does make a reasonable argument to support his contention. I'm really not much into predicting. I'm happy to just watch the story unfold. I thought it was an interesting take. We'll see.
Here's a bit more of the article:
This is far more likely to be a favor to Donald Trump which sets Manafort up for a pardon than any deal that leads Manafort to cooperate with the Mueller’s prosecutors against Donald Trump. A lot of this reasoning I set forth in this Editor’s Brief from earlier today.
There is a chance that we’re in for a surprise, that Manafort cooperates. If that was his plan he would have every reason to keep the President and his lawyers in the dark as long as possible. So a surprise would have a real logic to it. But that’s unlikely. All the reporting we’ve seen suggests Manafort has resisted the Mueller team’s pressure to cooperate, especially against the President. The continued existence of the joint defense agreement backs up that assumption.
Manafort is 69 years old and the first conviction will probably get him in the neighborhood of 8 to 10 years in federal prison. That alone could easily be a life sentence. Whether he goes to trial in the upcoming DC trial or pleads guilty to a subset of charges, he will almost certainly add significantly more time to his incarceration. Given those facts and the prospect of a pardon, why have the second trial at all? Manafort will pay a large sum of money on lawyers. He’ll save that money by pleading out. If he loses at trial he would also likely have to forfeit more money or property. Getting some limited benefit to pleading guilty under the sentencing guidelines makes a lot of sense, even without a pardon.
But pleading guilty Manafort does Trump a huge favor.
by ocean-kat on Thu, 09/13/2018 - 11:16pm
thanks much. Looked at Abramson, he's got a load of tweets on it in long string as usual, but then thankfully he finally summed it up with 3 possibilities, including 1 that agrees with Josh:
by artappraiser on Thu, 09/13/2018 - 11:52pm
Marcy Wheeler retweeted this
and tweeted this:
Ken Vogel of NYT was tweeting about Manafort docs he just got via FOIA (and those he didn't get); probably publish on them later:
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 12:00am
an hour after Trump tweeted the thing about Kerry that emptywheel quoted above, he did one more, 2 hrs. ago, @ 10:37 pm ET. He retweeted a recommendation by GOP spokeswoman Kayleigh McEnany of the new book by Gina Loudon, adding only that Gina is Great! This is the book
:
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 12:14am
Book vanished. Similar to her psychology degree.
ETA: the book reappeared. The degree, not so much.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 3:18am
Yeah well it was pretty clear someone took the phone away from him this morning before he could tweet anything and posted a whole bunch of retweets on the hurricane info., including one in Spanish! I don't believe for one minute he has interest in any of that whether he's upset about Manafort or not. Someone told him he couldn't tweet and he went along with it. This is the only one that looks like his own idea:
He doesn't do detailed info. like all those others, he doesn't have the attention span.
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 3:16pm
$46 million settlement - 3 homes, etc.
But will he talk? The rest is meaningless to me.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 10:39am
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 4:18pm
Josh Marshall:
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 4:30pm
Preet Bharara:
first retweeted this:
then retweeted this:
then these 4 just recently:
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 4:39pm
Sen. Mark Warner:
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 4:41pm
Glenn Kirschner 4 hrs. ago:
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 4:45pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 5:10pm
from the above, a confirmation that "complete cooperation" covers things Trump:
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 5:55pm
John Dean:
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 5:20pm
Laurence Tribe:
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 5:23pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 5:24pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 5:26pm
Last (for now), but not least:
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 5:28pm
Les jeux sont faits. Manafort was key, and Mueller turned him.
by Michael Wolraich on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 8:54pm
This doesn't say whether we-the-people get the ostrich jacket, but looks like there's some other good stuff:
Manafort Gives Up Prized Hamptons Estate, Keeps Florida Home
By Joe Schneider @ Bloomberg.com, September 14, 2018, 5:17 PM EDT
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 9:25pm
by artappraiser on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 10:59pm
Or lead-in to Saudi Arabia UAE, Israel...
What happened in Cyprus, Seychelles, Budapest...
Manafort's their pivot point.
This is where it goes multinational.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 09/14/2018 - 11:08pm
Seth Abramson retweeted this New Yorker analysis of the agreement recommended by Laurence Tribe:
by artappraiser on Sat, 09/15/2018 - 10:14pm