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  • I have been sickened by all the revisionist history that has been overflowing from the media spigots lately.  The prep work is obviously being done in the hopes we will yearn for another Bush as President, just as Jeb Bush is ready to be crowned in 2016.  Excuse me while I puke....

    by MrSmith1 3 weeks 2 days ago in THE PRESIDENTIAL LIBARY
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    Danny was smart playing his foreigner cred to the max. I did not get the irony of the China likes Muslims comment but I did laugh - sardonically - at this:...
  • Yes, there definitely is Quentin Tarantino material here & I must admit this one made me laugh:

    “Oh, that’s why your English is not very good,” the brother replied, finally figuring it out. “OK, you’re Chinese . . . I’m a Muslim....

  • The argument with Wattree before the Nazi comment was that his "irrefutable" truth that the GOP had done nothing good in 100 years was hyperbole and didn't help people take him seriously. And yes, Nelson Rockefeller was a pretty good moderate Republican (aside from Attica), as was...

  • Do you not see a double standard being used in the attack on Wattree's original blog and the comments made by Cornel West. If West's comments are OK, what was wrong with Wattree's original post.

    Nazi comparisons are wrong. The attack on the nature of Wattree's...

    by rmrd0000 3 weeks 2 days ago in An Irrefutable Truth About the GOP
  • Sigh. The criticism came before mention of the Nazis.The argument was that it was outrageous for Wattree to say that the GOP had done nothing worthwhile in one hundred years.People attacked the accuracy of his statement. Yet here you are defending Blackface, Vanilla children and that Obama is a...

    by rmrd0000 3 weeks 2 days ago in An Irrefutable Truth About the GOP
  • Thank you - a greeting card works when you can't find the words for that special moment.

    Or as a friend said, "the reason I drink is to make *you* more interesting"

  • I guess I am probably The Thoughtful One, at least when I am not posting the same thing time after time.  After time.

  • Flashy feather in your cap, PP.  Looks good.

    Funny Confession Ecard: The reason I swear so much is because fuck you.

  • I can fucking use profanity if I want - what are you, Miss Manners?

    Wattree can accuse people of being gas chamber building / black people lynchers, you can compare someone to a nurse intentionally infecting people with syphilis, but a curse word offends you? Different strokes for mad...

  • When you fall into profanity, you've lost it. Blackface was used by folks like Al Jolson of "Mammy" fame. The point I' m making is that you are ranting about Wattree being over the top and outrageous while supporting West for being over the top and outrageous. You attack...

    by rmrd0000 3 weeks 2 days ago in An Irrefutable Truth About the GOP
  • How does "blackface" refer to Obama's parents?

    You're just free-styling, making shit up.

    Re: doesn't grieve for black children, may be over the top, but you never discuss what the bases for these complaints are, just somehow West complains too mean and we must...

  • If only the Obama feds blasting things Republican amounted to anything.

    The participation rate of 16% in the program speaks volumes, the GOP would love to do that to Medicare.

  • Funny.  Thanks, I needed that laugh.

  • You sir, now have no basis to criticize Wattree. Cornel West says that Obama does not grieve or care about dead Black children.Blackface is offensive and directly attacks Obama because of his parent's ethnicity. 

    by rmrd0000 3 weeks 2 days ago in An Irrefutable Truth About the GOP
  •   Well, I still think Obama wants to preserve assistance to the poor, and I believe his promises to prevent chained CPI from causing a cut in benefits. And he isn't cutting Medicare benefits, he's cutting reimbursements to hospitals and other providers.

    Thanks for coming to...

  • I went to the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library six years ago. I liked it alot. There was a piece of the Berlin wall there and pictures of him with Gorbachev.

    You have to wonder what the equivalent would be at the Bush Presidential Library? I think there are going to be pictures of Iraqi...

    by Orion 3 weeks 2 days ago in THE PRESIDENTIAL LIBARY
  • And unfortunately, Shrub is my neighbor 30 miles to the east.  Ugh!  Thanks for the rant.

    by Carol Gee 3 weeks 2 days ago in THE PRESIDENTIAL LIBARY
  • It's real jargon that guns protect our freedom, like that gay marriage harms traditional marriages.

    If guns = freedom, liberty, equality and prosperity and all that jazz, Afghanistan would have been the Land Of Opportunity, right?

    There was actually this newspaper article I...

    by Orion 3 weeks 2 days ago in Owning Guns Doesn't Preserve Freedom
  • I will treasure this rant for the rest of my worthless existance. 

    hahahahahahaha

    I hereby render unto Trope the Dayly Comment/Reply/RANT of the Day for this here Dagblog Site, given to all of him from all of me.

    hahahahahah

    I really have never cared...

    by Richard Day 3 weeks 2 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • I think the biggest difference between those times and now is that, even if they were wrong, people were much more sure of themselves and the world back then. Almost everything is in question now.

    by Orion 3 weeks 2 days ago in Fear Itself
  • By Rockefeller Republican, West was suggesting Obama was no huge liberal. I think West was being kind - Rockefeller likely wouldn't have gone for indefinite detention, nor this sequester showdown that's hurting social & health programs, or trying to cut Social Security benefits. In...

  • Mother Jones has more details in this post: http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/04/tea-party-florida-unemployment-benefits     This is why Rick Scott will not get a second term....

  • I understand we are going to see a lot more of him because his brother is hinting about making a run in 2016 for president.  There will be plenty of rewriting history of the Bush years in office to clear the field for Jeb.

    by trkingmomoe 3 weeks 2 days ago in THE PRESIDENTIAL LIBARY
  • Al Jazeera English, 25 Apr 2013:

    Mexico teachers storm political party offices
    Teachers set fire to ruling party's office in Guerrero state in protest against planned education...

  • I think both Wattree and Cornel West like to play a variation of The Dozens. It's an entertaining modus operandi to a certain point, then it grows tiresome. I also think it often becomes counterproductive after a certain point. But that's just me, and that is all I have to say...

  • This by "The Troublemaker" is one that sounds especially familiar: To keep this from dying down, I will now post the same thing I said the first time, but slightly reworded...

  • This all kicked off over Wattree stating that the GOP has not done one single posiive thing in one hundred years. Wattree's statement ss deemed too outrageous by many. Along the way in the discussion on the board, the issue of Watrre's repeated commentary on Cornel West. West has...

    by rmrd0000 3 weeks 3 days ago in An Irrefutable Truth About the GOP
  •   I think I understand it.  Nuremberg declared aggressive war to be a crime--although they actually called it a "crime against peace" rather than a "crime against humanity".

  • Benjamin Ferencz, appointed by Telford Taylor as Chief Prosecutor in the Einsatzgruppen Case at the Trials of War Criminals before the...

    by NCD 3 weeks 3 days ago in An Irrefutable Truth About the GOP
  • Aha, you indavertently point out a big big problem with polls! If Pew didn't think about asking about it, it's not part of Pew's presentation of reality.  Myself, I was thinking that if it were done for 1996-2000, the Monica Lewinsky-Ken Starr-Linda Tripp- impeachment circus...

  • I openly admit a large bias against the GOP. As we sit and blog a number of Democratic Senators are heading out the door. There is little likelihood of Democrats taking over the House.

    Am I hypercritical of the GOP? Yes. Do I think that in "the wide scope of things" this is...

    by AnonymousRm (not verified) 3 weeks 3 days ago in An Irrefutable Truth About the GOP
  • Wow, the GOP is a greater threat to our way of life than the Civil War in which the  country split and 600,000 died, or nuclear missiles in Cuba.

    Welcome to the "no hyperbole" zone, otherwise known as humorless haven.

  • Nitpick? 10x error you mean?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

    Find the most bullshit estimate of deaths, ten times that given...

  • What?! The Kardashians didn't make the list?!
  • Stop Making Sense.

    by Michael Maiello 3 weeks 3 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • Interesting off-topic chart included, "most followed" stories, 2001-2013:

  •   Although Wattree no longer wants to talk about statistics, others who are interested might want to check out UNICEF reports on Iraq. Although he says UNICEF has reported a disaster, they actually say that child mortality in 2010 was less than in 1990(perhaps it would be lower still if not...

  •   Well, you're the one who brought up the Iraqis Bush killed when making your "Republicans= Nazis" claim. The mind-set of the Republicans isn't like that of the Nazis. If  it was, Bush would be dictator for life, most of the people who post here would be dead or in...

  • I reminded of a time when Al Fraken was hosting a show on Air America. He had one recurring segment during which he would call on his long-time friends who happened to be  a ditto-head, and the two would discuss the latest rants from Rush.  During one of these segments, Al pointed out...

  • ...voiced rational complaints while acting so irrationally.

    Maybe part of all this is trying to see the rationality in what appears to be an irrational act (which is definitely not the same as justifying the act).

    Herbert Blau wrote back in the...

    by Another Trope 3 weeks 3 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • To be blunt, I really don't care what the GP did in the past.

    Ok, so why are you telling me this? Again I didn't start this discussion. Wattree wrote a whole blog about the last one hundred years of the GOP that he reposted in the comment section here. Why didn't you...

  • An illustration of our times maybe is that these days Hollywood gives us The 40 Year Old Virgin instead? 

    by Another Trope 3 weeks 3 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • Yes. I would toss into this that here in America there was the post WWII economic boom, a rise in living standards and income (along with a rise in technological improvements) that has few equals in history.  I would argue that the collective notion that one's children should have a...

    by Another Trope 3 weeks 3 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • Just my two cents - on the notion of this or that being an aberration.  Yesterday we actually saw a few snow flakes falling.  For this part of the country it is incredibly uncommon, one just might call it an aberration.  Even still, the weather was within the broad realm of...

  • However, Marty is a humble lonely loser who does not act out in violence but finds love and joy with another humble lonely loser.

    Edit to add: Apropos of my most recent comment elsewhere on this thread, I am just reminded by...

    by artappraiser 3 weeks 3 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • This story really inspires my thinking, combined with the Network/Chayefsky quote and thinking about Chayefsky's time frame. Bear with me, it's convoluted. I am thinking along the lines that few in the western world considered fairness and a happy life as a birthright ...

    by artappraiser 3 weeks 3 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • You're loony. Nazis were an aberration.

  • This line in his bio caught my curiosity:

    His intimate, realistic scripts provided a naturalistic style of television drama for the 1950s, and he was regarded as the central figure in the "...

    by Another Trope 3 weeks 3 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • They are leaving out bombings, of course.

    Up until now, one could generally assume that if someone went over to that place where mass murder seemed like an appropriate solution to a situation, the impulse was to get a gun or two.  What we may be witnessing...

    by Another Trope 3 weeks 3 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • But was what people were actually seeing only what they wanted to see, conditioned to see?  Could he be one of those who can see behind the veil?

    For a little while in college, I rented a room from a couple who owned a house in town.   The town itself had numerous...

    by Another Trope 3 weeks 3 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • That was actually Paddy Chayefsky who "said" that, circa 1975-76.wink

    If you check...

    by artappraiser 3 weeks 3 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • I spent some time looking at this timeline of mass shootings, 1982 through 2012, from Mother Jones, and your description here:

    Too often, especially with those of the male gender, those...

    by artappraiser 3 weeks 3 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • Someone once said almost 40 years ago:

    I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickel's worth, banks are going bust, shopkeepers keep a gun under...

    by Another Trope 3 weeks 3 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • Ocean - Kat,

    I’m not just using the above to justify my argument. I’m also using the fact the Republicans conspired to literally steal a presidential election, they’ve left no stone unturned to obstruct democracy in congress, they’re trying to rig the democratic...

    by Wattree 3 weeks 3 days ago in An Irrefutable Truth About the GOP
  • Aaron,

    I’m not going to nitpick with you, or be sidetracked by getting into a discussion on statistical analysis. That’s one of the biggest mistakes that this country makes when dealing with Republicans - we constantly allow ourselves to be distracted from the bottom line...

    by Wattree 3 weeks 3 days ago in An Irrefutable Truth About the GOP
  • I was thinking more of older times than that, when religious fear was used to manipulate people, but the Cold War shared some of these features.

    Which makes me think of one difference between the "old days" and these--I will try to write about it today.

    by erica20 3 weeks 3 days ago in Fear Itself
  • Another fantastic essay, Trope.  I also remember Falling Down as damned disturbing.  There was something about the way Douglas voiced rational complaints while acting so irrationally.  Sorry to hear about your troubles.  Hope you land in a better situation.

    by Michael Maiello 3 weeks 3 days ago in Falling Sideways
  •    Using a survey of a couple thousand people to extrapolate the total number of deaths isn't a scientific or reliable method. One of the rules of statistical surveys is that duplication increases as the size of the sample increases.  I don't see any reason for dismissing...

  • The SSRIs, I think, play in to alot of sudden, explosive and bizarre violence - especially in people with little history of it. That sort of thing, with folks like Adam Lanza, is a very new thing in our world. His dad even said he couldn't understand what pushed his son to do...

    by Orion 3 weeks 3 days ago in Fear Itself
  • To be blunt, I really don't care what the GP did in the past. For the most part, those Republicans are dead. I have the same fear of the GOP as Wattree. I think that they are actively trying to subvert our democracy.  I work with groups that on a daily basis are working to combat GOP...

    by rmrd0000 3 weeks 3 days ago in An Irrefutable Truth About the GOP
  • I've seen estimates of over one million Vietnamese killed, most during Johnson's presidency. I was against both the Viet Nam and the Iraq war. I don't see much difference between the two.

    And torture was not at all uncommon during the Viet Nam war. Was it better when it was a...

  • Wonderful blog, Trope.  I remember the film and the truth of it being a bit too unsettling for me to see it again, when it came on TV.  I just didn't want to dwell too long in that universe.  Nice to read such great replies to your blog too.  It's one of the reasons I...

    by MrSmith1 3 weeks 3 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • Poetic license? Hard to get that impression when he called it irrefutable truth, unadulterated truth, asserted this was not a hyperbolic rant, and several time said he stands by every word in his comments.

    The vast majority of the time I spend talking politics I trash the republicans and...

  • Post-invasion excess deaths in Occupied Iraq include VIOLENT DEATHS estimated to be 0.8 million (world’s top medical epidemiologists published in The Lancet) to 1.2 million (the recent estimate of the top UK ORB market analysis and polling organization). The post-...

    by Wattree 3 weeks 4 days ago in An Irrefutable Truth About the GOP
  • Issa is one useless politican.  Maybe California will finely dump him. 

  •   If you really believe the GOP's tactics are identical to those of the Nazis, it may be useless to point out the differences. Even if  we had killed a million Iraqis(that estimate includes the Iraqis killed by the insurgents, and there are several lower estimates), that wouldn...

  • RM,

    I agree with everything you’ve said, except with regard to avoiding the comparison between the GOP and the Nazis. The similarity is not only real, but frighteningly compelling. Their propaganda campaign and tactics are identical, and their agenda is becoming increasingly more...

    by Wattree 3 weeks 4 days ago in An Irrefutable Truth About the GOP
  • RM,

    For whatever reason you choose to give Wattree way too much slack.  If Wattree doesn't know what horrible images come to mind when Nazis are mentioned, then he's a bigger idiot than I thought he might be earlier in the day.  

    But I think Wattree knows what...

    by bslev 3 weeks 4 days ago in An Irrefutable Truth About the GOP
  • Indeed, Mussolini was a son of a bitch but he was no Hitler.  

    by bslev 3 weeks 4 days ago in An Irrefutable Truth About the GOP
  • Orion, this is a very nice piece. We are in new times, but in many ways they are like the old times, when fear was generally the best technique for getting everybody to do everything. 

    I know you like to write about SSRIs, and I'm glad you are looking at what may be driving us to...

    by erica20 3 weeks 4 days ago in Fear Itself
  • I'm on the same page as you in that people who parse the things that dead Republicans accomplished and don't constantly yell about the evil being perpetrated by the current GOP are extremely naive. I think that there is simply no comparison betwen the Republicans and the Democrats. I...

    by rmrd0000 3 weeks 4 days ago in An Irrefutable Truth About the GOP
  • In regards to the matter of changing scripts, the film did a great job of contrasting how Foster thought he looked like to other people with what other people actually were looking at.

    Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes? 

    So any script is false for ourselves before...

    by moat 3 weeks 4 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • Well, yes I do, RM.  Nazis were Nazis long before they killed one Jew. So we'd be foolish to believe that the Nazis were so exceptionally bad that they were an aberation, and we'd be even more foolish to believe that "it couldn't happen here." Bush...

    by Wattree 3 weeks 4 days ago in An Irrefutable Truth About the GOP
  • You do what you have been lead to believe you are suppose to do but then everything falls apart anyway. The modern theme since Death of a Salesman? Or maybe it had fallen apart a long time ago and one is just now realizing it.
    by Another Trope 3 weeks 4 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • Nicely done.

    I think Falling Down was a very touching movie for many of us.  I remember it made me cry.  Not many movies do and they are usually the ones that feature some sort of ordinary human triumph.

    The scenes that come most immediately to mind are of him...

    by EmmaZahn 3 weeks 4 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • I have so many thoughts about this film.

    First, why Michael was not nominated for an Academy Award is beyond me.

    Cannes evidently liked the film, but I was just captivated when it finally came on the tellie but it has been a few years since I have viewed this movie.

    ...

    by Richard Day 3 weeks 4 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • I agree. Good post.

    by Michael Wolraich 3 weeks 4 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • Humiliation is probably more to the point than frustration. Or to rephrase it: the lack or loss of dignity. Which is why having just any job is not the cure all. What fosters a sense of dignity and selfworth is going to be different from individual to individual, (sub)culture to (sub)culture....
    by Another Trope 3 weeks 4 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • I thought that there was a major degree of poetic license with the statement about the GOP not having done anything worthwhile  in 100 years. I couldn't believe that people were documenting the things that the GOP had done in the past while pointing out how bad The GOP is today. It...

    by rmrd0000 3 weeks 4 days ago in An Irrefutable Truth About the GOP
  • And tweet from the link: gain knowledge, get women, acquire currency. A sort of recipe for success for too many guys (and some gals).
    by Another Trope 3 weeks 4 days ago in Loser
  • And the Michael Douglas character and all the real life persons that inspired him did their deeds without taking SSRI's. Unbelievable, I know, but it seems like just good old fashioned depression and related mental illnesses helped 'em do it....

    by artappraiser 3 weeks 4 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • Praise due, Trope, for delivering all the main intertwined memes so well in this and your other recent posts. You've obviously been pondering all these things for a very long time.

    by artappraiser 3 weeks 4 days ago in Falling Sideways
  • Interesting finds from Dzhokhar’s Twitter account; thought I might as well include his comments on topic on your thread along with everyone else's:

    “Never underestimate the...

    by artappraiser 3 weeks 4 days ago in Loser
  • The consciousness-raising continues:

    After Rape of Child, Indian Media and Protestors Make Common Cause
    By Manu Joseph, Page...

  • A carbon tax is the only way we can save our mother.

  • To double down, there's a difference between Nazi references as jack-booted thugs/fascists (more like Mussolini), vs. directly linking people to designing gas chambers.

    But RM & Wattree seem oblivious to the difference, comparing poverty speaking tours to the murderous excesses of...

  • I'm agreeing with PP here for once and I'm going to milk it.  RM, respectfully, if you don't understand the offensiveness of comparing American douchebag politicians to the Nazis, then you're an idiot--really, and if Wattree doesn't see a problem with it, then he...

    by bslev 3 weeks 4 days ago in An Irrefutable Truth About the GOP
  • First off;  Snakes don't...

  • This was also posted by Reuters this morning stating the WHO that this is "one of the most lethal."  http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/24/us-birdflu-china-idUSBRE93L0EF20130424...

  • You're a "hack" because Wattree throws out demonstrably false & absurd statements in an "irrefutable" column, someone calls him on this, and you rush in to defend and change the subject.

    Meanwhile he's off congratulating himself on another of his "...

  • Disagree - Chechens in particular chose high profile but often non-bloody kidnappings & commandeerings as way to highlight their situation. That the Russians...

  • There is a role for the anti–hero in society, providing a corporeal presence that counters the status quo. But I suppose one could say not all counters are the same, as in balancing means and ends.
    by Another Trope 3 weeks 5 days ago in Getting Radical
  •     There was no more and no less of a message than in other terrorist attacks. For them, there were real enemies present; all Americans are the enemy.

  • Maybe their financiers saw the two perps pictures, just as we did on the news and to take the heat off of a murder for hire crime  and those who paid for it, the powers to be, told the two; "you botched the perfect crime now do something to separate the buyers of your service...

  • How Toronto's Muslim Community Uncovered the Would-Be Train Bombers
    "They focused on demonizing Western society....

  • If this event had occurred earlier than even the Butch /Sundance era and the intended target would have been Lord Charles Cornwallis, they'd have been proclaimed a hero by some.  These idiot/losers deserve nothing but scorn. What did their innocent...

  • Logistically possible doesn't equal, in this case, ideologically smart.

    There's a lot of story to be filled in here--and even when/if we know everything, some of it might make far more sense to the attackers than it ever will to the rest of us.

  • First off;  Snakes don't talk, In the Bible it records the snake appeared to talk, because the unseen ventriliquist  didn't want to be seen. .....See how easily you were fooled, by misinformation? .......Because you were so easily ...

  • Yes, and because runners are finishing a 26-mile run, there would be people waiting for them with backpacks full of clothing, snacks, fresh shoes, etc. 

    Some of those backpacks might be left lying about while somebody went over to the finish line to take a photo, etc.  People...

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