MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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Yes, he finally did it, and 8 UN workers paid with their lives in northern Afghanistan, two by beheading. Florida Pastor Terry Jones, who threatened to burn a Koran last year to mark the anniversary of 9/11 but didn't, did the deed last Sunday in his Dove World Outreach Center church in Florida.
The reaction of the locals in Mazar al Sharif to the actions of a Bible thumping Koran burning nutcase on the other side of the world must increase doubts of the wholehearted appreciation or acceptance of the 10 year occupation by the US and NATO, and also the work done by dedicated UN personnel who are tasked with improving the lives of the mostly illiterate poverty stricken population. This in a province with a majority Tajik population typical of northern Afghanistan and not a traditional region of the Taliban,
Any politician who proposes extending the US occupation of this corrupt and probably ungovernable country may be just as dangerous and nuts as Pastor Jones.
Comments
Now the NYT has the story:
by NCD on Fri, 04/01/2011 - 1:27pm
I hope the US leave all the muslim mideast countries. I don't care if oil goes to $10/gallon here. Pull all our troops out and redeploy them on the Mexican border. Then declare a one year vacation for americans and just feed us for free. Stop sending the mideast countries our food and we'll see how long they last there.
by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 04/03/2011 - 7:53pm
8 UN workers paid with their lives
The reason people are dead is not because someone burned a Koran. That was the reason there was a protest.But this is why people are dead:
But then some demonstrators grabbed weapons from the U.N. guards, opened fire on police and then seized the building.
I am kind of surprised to see this reasoning from someone who is so anti-gun. Your point seems to me to be basically excusing killing out of anger and killing because of destruction of property considered sacred. Would you likewise excuse a construction worker in the 60's turning a gun on a bunch of hippies because one of them burned a flag? After all, he was angry because someone burned his sacred totem?
by artappraiser on Fri, 04/01/2011 - 1:58pm
The reason the UN workers are dead is because the US invaded and occupied a country we should never have set foot in, which is stuck in the 13th century, and which is not ready for either free speech or democracy, a place where human life is cheap and violence, intolerance, ignorance, poverty, corruption and hate are rampant. A nutcase in Florida burning a book is enough to light the fuse for these people.
by NCD on Fri, 04/01/2011 - 3:32pm
Well said indeed.
by cmaukonen on Sat, 04/02/2011 - 6:17pm
The guy burns the Koran and instantaneously people at the UN die... Did any hand intervene or did they die in direct relation to the burning? Did the autopsy reveal that they were burn victims? Or were they slain by insane hate-motivated believers of the Religion of Peace? If you PC idiots cannot tell the difference you're destined to be beheaded along with the rest of the infidels.
by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 04/01/2011 - 2:27pm
The reason these people are dead is because they were murdered by the people who killed them.
by Bruce Levine on Sat, 04/02/2011 - 7:09am
Sure.
And then?
Is that the end of it or should we think about lessons learned ?.
Should Terry Jones do whatever he has a legal right to do, end of story ? Burn another Koran next Sunday? Why not? It's a free country.
Or should he think about whether that's a good idea.? And those with the ability to influence him help him to?.
by Flavius on Sat, 04/02/2011 - 8:39am
I don't think that my comment in any suggests that "koran burners" shouldn't be condemned by all free-thinking people. But even non-Americans who murder people with whatever pretext they might have are responsible for their own actions.
by Bruce Levine on Sat, 04/02/2011 - 8:46am
Therefore I responded: Sure
I didn't imply that you didn't condemn koran burners because I don't think that.
What I do think is that it's important to fix what can be fixed. We can't prevent non americans from murdering people. We can affect american behavior that increases the probability of such murders. At least in my case I don't think we should decide to do so if it is at a cost to our civil liberties. But I'm interested in considering what can be done.. .
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by Flavius on Sun, 04/03/2011 - 8:29am
http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/do-we-have-the-right-to-burn-the-koran/
So do you think moderate Muslims will defend the right to burn the koran, bible, torah...?
by mageduley on Sat, 04/02/2011 - 6:12pm
No they won't defend the right to burn the Koran, or even voice support for easing the Pakistani blasphemy laws frequently used as private vendettas against non-Muslims. The late Punjab moderate Pakistani Muslim leader Salman Tasser had a full clip shot into him in January by one of his security guards, while the rest of the 'security guards' watched and did nothing, all because he supported moderation of the Pakistani blasphemy laws.
by NCD on Sat, 04/02/2011 - 6:44pm