MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE by Michael Wolraich Order today at Barnes & Noble / Amazon / Books-A-Million / Bookshop |
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In my opinion, this event showed heartless and reactionary much of the Left can be. There was no compassion for the lead singer Jesse Hughes or any empathy for how horrific it must have been to literally see hundreds of people there to cheer him on just get blasted away by terrorists. No, he went right wing, so he is literally worse than the terrorists.
I'll stand by that - heartless. If a bunch of people die and a person's impulse is ever to judge a survivor, something is really fucking wrong with that person.
Also, the fact that Hughes even survived showed that he has a thing or to to say about responding to such extreme situations. The problem of gun violence is not one I have answers for but he had a fair point in pointing out that French gun control didn't seem to do much to stop Islamic terrorists. Islamists have access to an international network that few outside of their world understand, and the hardware available in that network is likely unlimited. What do the people they attack have access to?
Maybe that's why he was attacked so hard. Grunge creep Mark Lanegan thought he was being clever when he said "it fucks my soul to see how off the rails you've gone," like that is a normal statement for someone to make. You can see from interviews that Huges was likely the most emotionally impacted by what happened. I guess that vulnerability equals opportunity to some people. I think someone like Jesse Hughes sets off professional cowards - people who are even more frightened of such events than he is, and think that by attacking those who fight back they will somehow be spared.
by Orion on Sun, 11/14/2021 - 3:45pm
What a dumbfuck, of course it's a stupid shit response - he's saying that a once in 100 years attack by coordinated terrorists happen, we have to act like the other 365*100-1 days (plus leap days) don't matter. I'm sympathetic towards his trauma, seriously, but his reasoning sucks, and it takes less than 3 seconds to realize it. Yes, Black Swans do happen - but if poor security is involved they're not Black Swans - they're just typical expected results of bad security. You can look at all the goddamned street shootings the last 2 years and say that's totally fucked up - and it almost certainly wouldn't have happened in France, because we have shitty gun controls and obnoxious citizens. Yes, Islamic terrorists got through airport security on 9/11, but overall airport security had worked pretty well the previous decades - without being too draconian. Why do you have to appease such simplistic argumentation?
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 11/14/2021 - 3:43pm
Islamists have access to a vast international network. It doesn't really matter what laws you pass when it comes to them. Their network existed before the nation state and exists outside of any nation state.
And French authorities foil Islamist terror attacks every year, so it's hardly a once in 100 years thing.
by Orion on Sun, 11/14/2021 - 3:54pm
Even though it's misused, the word "terrorism" is a useful one. The most important point is that you don't need a lot of weaponry to cause de-stabilizing terror in a population at large or a specific population. Good example (to get away from the tired and overwrought 9/11 example of how box cutters and airplanes being used to gigantic results but with confused goals) see the Achille Lauro hijacking or the 1972 Olympics in Munich meant to strike terror in Jews allover the world as if, then terrorized, they could do something about Israel/Palestine.
by artappraiser on Sun, 11/14/2021 - 10:02pm
French dealt with Algerian independence around 1960 as the French dropped their other colonies too, but "foiling terrorist threats" is quite tthe opposite of suffering frequent Islamic attacks & mass killings or in the US regularly having mass shootings every 2 weeks or maybe more frequently now. So yes, he's still extremely wrong in his opinion and it should be obvious. The French night club atrocity was very rare (Bataclan is already 6 years old - name one that happened since). And gun control is certainly a big part of that success. US gun deaths are every day. Someone feels postal, they just go kill a bunch of people. Like Vegas. Like Orlando. Like countless schools. Like Chicago and Milwaukee and Minneapolis and St Louis inner cities...
Malcolm Gladwell had a bit on suicide in "Talking to Strangers". We think suicide means are fungible, but he notes how decreasing the deadliness of home gas in ovens didn't increase sad housewife suicides some other way - they just decreased. Someone who would put their head in an oven wouldn't likely jump off a bridge (which got better secured) or a gun to their head or swallow poison (though opioids may be an acceptable alternative for some), and i don't think car emissions are fast enough for suicide these days. Similatly decreasing easy to deadly weapons greatly lowers their likelihood of use. Passion shootings or criminal activity, they both get harder. How many 7- year-olds would shoot their siblings if they didn't find a gun lying around? My whole time growing up there was never an armed burglar in the neighborhood or any shooting, but 2 unpleasant could-have-been tragedy from home weapons (ignoring shooting bb guns at each other)
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 11/15/2021 - 1:05am
New one, I am now curious what these guys were trying to accomplish:
by artappraiser on Sun, 11/14/2021 - 10:19pm