MURDER, POLITICS, AND THE END OF THE JAZZ AGE
by Michael Wolraich
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EXCLUSIVE Former Republicans and Democrats to form new third U.S. political party
By artappraiser on Wed, 07/27/2022 - 8:54pm |
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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-former-republicans-democrats-form-new-third-us-political-party-2022-07-27/
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Jamelle Bouie on WaPo announcement op-ed by David Jolly, Christine Todd Whitman and Andrew Yang -
by artappraiser on Wed, 07/27/2022 - 10:13pm
Is one thing like the other?
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 07/27/2022 - 11:14pm
and he retweeted this reply
by artappraiser on Thu, 07/28/2022 - 12:04am
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 07/28/2022 - 12:13am
by PeraclesPlease on Thu, 07/28/2022 - 12:15pm
My favorite party is still the All Elite Wrestling tag team Private Party!
by Orion on Thu, 07/28/2022 - 11:05pm
Ring of Fire is saying Yang is really just be coming a Republican: https://youtu.be/jQjVrtVsGxc
I might be wrong but isn't ROF started by Robert Kennedy, the anti vac guy? They could likely say the same of him.
by Orion on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 4:18pm
Have been seeing TONS of Dem-type people on Twitter saying he's really been a Republican all along. It's a very common reaction comment. His pro-business, pro-entrepreneur attitude was a real turn off to classic DNC activist type Dems all along, it was like DLC vs. FDR-style DNC. Lots of people don't want to give up the Marxist analysis of the world as laborers vs. capitalists, even tho robots are gradually taking over the classic 'laborer' role and everyone who has a 401K and/or owns a house is theoretically a capitalist, not just a laborer. To me, it's like a denial of reality that things have changed, they are comfortable being ye olde factory worker victim and don't cotton that well to new kinds of victimhood.
by artappraiser on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 6:02pm
In my opinion, he gets that concept better than they do, he recognizes that companies will eventually not need human beings at all.
I do actually agree with the analysis that Yang hasn't thought out a whole lot besides that, but he's tackling stuff that they don't even want to look at and just pretend is not happening.
by Orion on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 7:30pm
I just don't think Yang is that good, thin experience, thin success. Getting sucked in by that Russian mover wasn't Yang being corrupt or bad - it's him being naive.
by PeraclesPlease on Fri, 07/29/2022 - 9:58pm
The critics are right that Yang is a bit of a one trick pony with UBI. And far from rejecting his ideas, literally both embraced direct cash payments during the pandemic.
by Orion on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 7:51pm
She is correct to point out that there are actually few truly red or blue states:
We are so beyond gaslighted by the horse race narrative of two parties and the whole narrative twisted by two things: the Electoral College and the U.S. Senate. When in actuality many other political races matter much more to people's daily lives
Covid causing a lot of moving from dense urban areas is going to shake that up a little to be sure. Especially because it was done by people with the funds and/or education to do so.
One can not presume this will always necessarily help Dems. Think for example of Elon Musk's move from CA to TX.
by artappraiser on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 10:09pm
she's got a good question:
by artappraiser on Sat, 07/30/2022 - 11:22pm
It appears not everyone likes him.
The weird thing about him is his gimmick actually succeeded. We all got checks from the feds or the state. But after that, I can see the criticism that his gimmick is limited.
by Orion on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 5:50pm
You got checks from the Feds during a huge Covid epidemic.
It's not like Andrew Yang invented UBI. As Hillary noted, she was looking at it,
but couldn't make the numbers work. The Covid support wasn't UBI -
it was 1-2-3x gov assistance during a crisis, not the first time.
by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 07/31/2022 - 6:32pm
In California, the concept seemed to stretch a little bit beyond that.
by Orion on Mon, 08/01/2022 - 7:27pm
by Orion on Mon, 08/01/2022 - 5:20pm
I will fix this when I'm on an actual computer.
by Orion on Mon, 08/01/2022 - 5:21pm
Just to note, we're not interested in "blocking" Yang - he can say what he wants. Fine to have more ideas knocking around, even if I critique.
by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 08/01/2022 - 5:41pm
I know that. It's just trolls on Twitter after him.
by Orion on Mon, 08/01/2022 - 7:26pm
Yang also didn't do that Great electorally. Might need a message more sophisticated than his to power a third party, although he could do it if he recruited Tulsi Gabbard to the fold.
Or maybe channel old Teddy Roosevelt, the last to do the third party thing right. Where is Wolraich when you need him?
by Orion on Tue, 08/02/2022 - 12:04am
For those who still thought GOP conservatism as a "philosophy" rather than Crips vs Bloods, Sharks vs Jets gang warfare.
by PeraclesPlease on Tue, 08/02/2022 - 1:31am
Manchin, and Yang and his followers, are working against the TEAM SPORTS framing that is the main thing bedeviling governing the U.S.(and which fed cable tv profits until social media took over)
I definitely support them in that vein. And I do think Yang's promotion of instituting ranked choice voting into as many races as possible IS a major solution!
by artappraiser on Tue, 08/02/2022 - 4:09pm
by artappraiser on Tue, 08/02/2022 - 10:58pm
by artappraiser on Wed, 08/03/2022 - 12:59pm
sometimes the simple apolitical cop way of looking at things can be refreshing:
by artappraiser on Tue, 08/09/2022 - 8:04pm
Yang is neither hot nor cold; i will spit him out
(even Trae Crowder hat-tipped the Yang objection, "right, this will encourage the monkeys to throw even more shit")
by PeraclesPlease on Wed, 08/10/2022 - 1:11am