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    Don't Know Nothing About Economy...

    I am cleaning out my workspace, in preparation for messing up a new one and I came across a pamphlet I have been carrying around ever since it was given to my by Robert Lenzner, then national editor of Forbes in 2000.  It is called Life Without Treasury Securities and was written by Albert M. Wojnilower an economist and then advisor to Monitor Clipper Partners, a private equity firm and Craig Drill Capital, a long-lived hedge fund.

    "In the year 2013, according to the new Federal budget, the U.S. Government will have retired the public debt."

    That's the lead.  Then, the warning:

    "Such predictions, of course, are to be taken with many grains of salt."

    Fourteen years later (Wojnilower delivered his paper for a conference of the Eastern Economic Association in late March, 2000) many grains of salt have been spilled and, as we all know, the public debt was not retired.  This renders the rest of Wojnilower's paper, which imagines how markets would function without risk free Treasury bonds as a benchmark and safe haven, more of an academic exercise.  I carry the pamphlet around as a reminder about long term predictions regarding big things.

    Today, Atrios points out, the Federal government announced that the 2013 deficit came in in $139 billion lower than the deficit we would have gotten if we had enacted the Simpson-Bowles Plan. This is, as Atrios points out, a failure of policy.  We should be borrowing more at low rates of interest to fight unemployment but this is an old argument and both sides are now set in their ways, so I will let that be.

    Revenue is climbing while outlays are falling and the budget gap is closing. Meanwhile, the economy continues to grow, making each year's shrinking deficit, and the total debt, a smaller part of the whole equation.

    There are those in this debate who insist on a "long term" problem and these can be very difficult to argue with.  They have tales of demographic time bombs that make sense in isolation but that necessarily gloss over all of the unpredictables -- how Congress and the President enact budgets and spending is a good one or the rate of GDP growth in any given year is another.

    Fourteen years ago, it seemed reasonable to imagine a world with no public U.S. debt.  Four years ago, the Simpson-Bowles Commission recommended a deficit reduction plan that reduced the deficit less than the sequester did. Long term thinking is necessary in these matters but long term planning should never assume certitude.  Between the forecast and the right policy there is more room than some may like you to believe.

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    Thanks for the pointer. I found the pamphlet online but am too distracted at the present to read it but hope to get to it soon.

    Life Without Treasury Securities


    With all of these prognosticators, you would think that some would be punished when they are sooooo far off in their predictions!

    Look, I am playing Texas Hold-em and I have four spades and an open ended straight and I'm all in and it turns out that I end up ALL-IN.

    I'm in the stock market in '87 and I am sure ENRON is the proper road to go and well....

    I decide that Fred's COFFEE MART is a good venue to become an entrepreneur and Star Bucks excells by selling 400 calorie junk.

    But our politicians will tell us that war is the best bet in settling the Middle East and yet McCain wishes wars in Syria, Iran and now the Ukraine.

    McCain never loses. (unless he runs for Prez of course in the worst year possible for a repub!)

    Now folks like Morris really licked their wounds in 2012 and Rove is certainly having some problems with regard to his hundred million schemes.

    On the other hand, we had a chance to deal with 'national debt' (whateverthehellthatmeans!) but the repubs took over in 2001 and said:

    HEY, WE GOT A LOT OF MONEY TO PAY OUR CONTRIBUTORS AND WE MUST SPEND IT FAST BEFORE THE DEMS COME IN AND ATTEMPT TO HELP THE MIDDLE CLASS AND THE POOR...

    So the repubs gave the middle class enough for toaster ovens whilst granting the 10% enough tax credits to purchase yachts and dope and pretty young girls!

    As the Bard once said:

    NOTHING IS REVEALED!

     


    That was a great piece from 2000.

    Another ecnomist with great predictions is Stephen Moore, a long resume and frequent guest on NPR's Diane Rehm Show.

    His 2004 book Bullish on Bush: How George Bush's Owenership Society Will Make America Stronger, with the odd but appropriate misspelling of 'Owenership' not 'Ownership' at Amazon, perhaps representing what was actually going on in America at the time...clearly unbeknowst to Moore at the time.

    Stephen Moore's 2014 book is Crash Landing: How Bush, Bernanke, Pelosi and Obama Have Wrecked the U.S. Economy (And How to Salvage America's Future). Not sure this would be a guy I would want at the helm of my economic lifeboat. Interesting GWB is now 'bad' even though he cut taxes big time, did everything else they told him to do.

    Moore is on the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal, been with Club for Growth, and now Chief Economist at the Heritage Foundation.


    I wonder what the deficit would be if we still had Bush's budget


    Potentially smaller if you imagine that the House Republicans would not have put Bush through the debt ceiling debates and the downgrade.  Sure, he would have used a lot more tax cuts than direct stimulus but we know that deficits wouldn't have mattered to the the Republicans and we know Bush dealt with one recession by writing checks to people... It wouldn't have been the best way to go about things but however it was done, more would have been better than less and Bush would have gotten what he asked for.


    You have a very fecund imagination.


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