". . . Ask . . . Tell" Justice Requires Repeal

    Cross posted at www.denniebriggs.com/wp/

    We’ve witnessed a mockery of social justice in the US Senate’s Armed Forces Committee’s hearings on DADT, one which NY Times’ editorial put rightly: “It is shameful that Republican lawmakers are not as respectful of the values enunciated on Tuesday by Mr. Gates and Adm. Michael Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who firmly supported eliminating what Mr. Gates called a “legally and morally fraught process.”

    “Speaking for myself and myself only,” Adm. Mullen declared: “it is my personal belief that allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly would be the right thing to do. No matter how I look at this issue, I cannot escape being troubled by the fact that we have in place a policy which forces young men and women to lie about who they are in order to defend their fellow citizens. For me personally, it comes down to integrity—theirs as individuals and ours as an institution.”

    Republican opposition to lifting the “don’t ask, don’t tell,” bar came in the face of increased public support for allowing gay people to serve openly—that has risen from 44 percent in 1993, when it was imposed, to 75 percent last year. All the more surprising when Secretary Gates just released a comprehensive nine-months’ study of all branches of the Armed Forces in which 70 percent of those surveyed (115,000) believe that the impact on their units would be positive, mixed—or of no consequence at all. In response to resistance of racial and sexual integration,  Adm Mullen testified: “. . .as the report notes, critics overestimated the negative consequences and underestimated the military’s ability to adapt and incorporate diversity.”

    In a suprise setback, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Colin Powell, who had fervently opposed gays openly serving in the military in 1993, announced last February: “In the almost 17 years since the ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ legislation was passed, attitudes and circumstances have changed. I fully support the new approach presented to the Senate Armed Services Committee this week by Secretary of Defense Gates and Admiral Mullen.”

    With all that convincing support, Senator John McCain, who leads the opposition, nevertheless maintained his defiant stand and asked for a further survey of armed forces personnel. The senator, clearly out of contact with the modern military, bases his know-how on his limited engagement more than a half century ago. He is furthermore put in an unwieldy position as his wife and daughter have publically not only supported the repeal, but same sex marriage as well. His chosen running mate from his ill-fated presidential bid, in addition, continues to flaunt the public in her conservative Tea Party endeavors while her teenage daughter “danced with the stars”—one of the current one-in-three unwed mothers.

    In addition to its homophobic elements, such unwarranted resistance has wider implications than the military’s ban on gays. Attitudes and circumstances are changing—as General Powell acknowledged in his about face. Marriage, family, relationships, yes, even religious beliefs, are rapidly shifting in spite of hardliners’ determination. Recall the recent poll which indicated that 39 percent of Americans believe that marriage is becoming obsolete. Recognizing the rights of gays to serve openly, some believe, would be yet another step in government sanctions for this breakaway of traditional values.

    CNN’s Michael Wolraich, however, has come forth with a “new,” albeit tried, cost-effective solution: form separate—but equal—military units for gays and lesbians. The military has experience with this way out, going back to the Second World War when it placed Japanese-Americans in the 442ND Regimental Combat Team and once more with all-Black units (80 percent of White military personnel had objected to taking showers with Blacks). This resolution would lay to rest for all time the bathing fears of straight service personnel having to take showers with gays. The gay/lesbian units could have their own uniforms, mascots and so on. It might, however, call for a new Secretary of Defense and Joint Chief’s Chairman, to carry out the plan, still Senator McCain might be cajoled into service. But Mr Wolraich cautions, “There is one potential problem. Because of a shortage of homosexual officers, straight officers would have to lead homosexual units until new gay and lesbian officers could be trained.

    I haven’t seen any numbers as to how many officers in the military are gay. But in my eight years as a Naval Officer, I knew quite a few—including me! Serving on submarines, air craft carriers, in Naval hospitals and bases, I found no difficulties carrying out duties while being gay. It would have been easier and more honest, of course, to have been more straightforward, but I had to weigh service with candor. 

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    Comments

    What!? Gays in the Navy? Someone alert Sen. McCain before the military collapses.


    Now that makes me laugh. hahaah


    I'm going to try to put this delicately. I served as a Naval Officer and never once gave a thought to whether or not someone was gay. As for the showers--I served with a number of officers from other nations, and as far as their native customs in the showers went, whether or not they were gay was the absolute last thing I was concerned about.


    I think it's an excellent idea to repeal the "don't tell" part of DADT, but I see no problem in retaining the "don't ask" portion. Can we call that a compromise that both sides should be happy with? Laughing


    I say, repeal the "don't" part! Ask, tell,Ask, tell, and on and on..... hahahahaha! Just repeal the MF!

    AmiBlue:

    As far as I can tell, everything that makes sense -- common sense in terms of  financial, emotional, psychological sense -- is currently eschewed in favor of serial decisions that recklessly aver impossible/counter-intuitive positions that seem to be made and supported for no humane/practical reason I can see. Instead, what we get is an unrelenting diet of decisions taken in favor of infernal partisanship that saps and demeans our lives, presaging dire consequence in the not too distant future.

    How hard was this to do right? At what real political cost? But it is consistent -- god knows it is consistent -- with the madness that prevails.

     


    I hardly know what to say, Wendy.  I feel almost overwhelmed with a profound sense of loss because of what is happening in this country. It's like standing in the cold night holding a candle in memory of something irreplacible that is gone for good.  The astounding hypocrisy in washington makes me sick.  I see no end to it and I have no hope left.


    It's a disgrace to the Senate


    It's a disgrace. Period.

    Mr. Briggs, I didn't thank you properly for sharing your article with us. I'm Michael Wolraich, and I'm honored that you've written here and referenced my article.

    I'm sorry and saddened that the Senate vote failed today.


    Senator Collins said it was Reid who sabotaged the Bill (its always the liberals and the Democrats who sabotage things, never the GOP), Collins was asking for unlimited debate (with only one week left in the session) and said she was negotiating 'in good faith' (don't they always say that?).

    Reid had met Collin's demand for unlimited debate on DADT twice earlier this year, and on those occasions she still voted against bringing the Bill to the floor, talk about Lucy and Charlie Brown....

    Reid aide: "Sen. Reid earlier this year, in July and in September, did offer to have unlimited debate on the bill, and Sen. Collins could have supported moving forward at that time, and she didn't." SF Chronicle

    I guess you can call it Blowing Smoke!

    Pardon me for being blunt, but what were you all thinking? Need I remind you of the health care debacle? Did you think this would fly under their radar? McConneell has stated nothing would pass that would give Obama anything to crow about in 2012. It should be obvious to the most casual observer the GOPer's are running the show even though they are the minority. Odd isn't it that the Democrats never exercised this much clout during their time being the minority?

    Washington is broke alright and it's the GOPers who are doing everything possible to make it known and at the Democrats expense. So by the time 2012 arrives there will be enough people looking for change they can believe in and it won't be Obama or the Democrats. Sad fact the Democrats are too fearful to mount a counter strike...they might draw attention to themselves and earn the wrath of the tea-baggers and have a serious re-election challenge.

    I would hope the Democrats grow a pair and a spine to boot cause if not, in 2012 the GOPer's will shove their God, religion and guns up all our ying-yangs without the courtesy of a thank you ma'am.


    "CNN’s Michael Wolraich, however, has come forth with a “new,” albeit tried, cost-effective solution: form separate—but equal—military units for gays and lesbians."

    With all due respect, 'separate but equal', decided by Plessy v. Ferguson in 1896 that okayed segregation, was overturned by the Warren Court in 1954 in a unanimous decision, citing the 14th amendment guaranteeing equal protection to all citizens of the country, saying no state-sponsored institutions can be segregated.  The decision came from Brown v. the Board of Education.

    Further, the military has acted as a social change agent in the past, integrating blacks and women into its ranks, requiring soldiers to get along.

    Now, if Michael Wolraich's suggestion was snark, and I didn't get it, I apologize for being too serious.

    DADT is a sick law as it requires servicemen and women to lie, and it encourages spying, tattling, eavesdroppipng, and inquiry into personal records.

    Just for the record, the day after Cindy McCain spoke against DADT, she walked it back.  I'd guess her crazed husband made her an offer she couldn't refuse.


    Now, if Michael Wolraich's suggestion was snark, and I didn't get it, I apologize for being too serious.

    Michael Wolraich (AKA Genghis) was most definitely being snarky. In the cited article, the snark is quite clear, although from how it was presented here, one could be excused for not recognizing it as such.


    Twas not snark. Twas satire.


    Apologies, then, but Dennie's piece seemed to treat it differently, and your shower piece he linked to didn't mention any of it.  Hence, my confusion. Was it Dennie's 'satire' then, or yours?


    Yeah, I'm not sure if Dennie recognized it as satire. I suspect he did, but he treated it as least semi-seriously. Of course, as with all good satire (and I apologize profusely for calling it snark, Genghis), there's a Poe-ness to it that makes one question whether it's possible the person who wrote it might actually being serious, just as I'm sure there were at least some people creating delicious baby recipes after Swift's Modest Proposal.Wink


    It's in the second half of the shower piece. And I'm sure that Dennie got the satire.


    And here I though it was ironic. Damn song.


    I don't think so.  Someone has already suggested it as an alternative on John McCain's website.  Maybe satire has to go another few degrees into the absurd.  Just a thought.

    Another thought: the In the news box isn't getting many comments, though I don't know about views.  Maybe it could go south of the From the Dagbloggers even if it doesn't seem more useful.


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