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    INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE THAT THE CLINTONS ARE CLOSET CONSERVATIVES, CORRUPT, AND COLLUDED WITH RONALD REAGAN TO VICTIMIZE THE BLACK COMMUNITY

    Beneath the Spin * Eric L. Wattree

     

    INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE THAT THE CLINTONS ARE CLOSET CONSERVATIVES, CORRUPT, AND COLLUDED WITH RONALD REAGAN TO VICTIMIZE
    THE BLACK COMMUNITY
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    I’ve been researching the Clintons for over 20 years, every since they conned the Black community into giving them our devotion (“The first Black President”), blood, sweat, and tears, and then cut our throats as soon as they set foot in the White House.
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    Many journalists consider me an expert on Tavis Smiley and Cornel West, and  routinely contact me as part of their research whenever they do an article on either one of them, but I know twice as much about Bill and Hillary Clinton, because I’ve been researching them for twice as long. In fact, Tavis’ strong support of Hillary over Obama in 2008 is what caused me to start researching him and West, because as a result of my long years of research on the Clintons, it is my position that ANY Black person who supports team Clinton is the direct equivalent of a civil rights worker who supports David Duke. It just doesn't make sense. From my point of view, such people have to have either a self-serving agenda, or they're low-information voters - and with respect to Tavis Smiley and Cornel West, it didn’t take me but a short time to find out that in their case, it was the former.  Yeah, I know. West supported Bernie Sanders this time, but let us not forget that West makes much of his living speaking on college campuses, and young college students make up much of Bernie's base. So there's a method to his madness.  But this is not about Cornel West. Let's discuss the Clintons.
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    BILL CLINTON AND THE MENA CONNECTION
     

    When Bill Clinton was the governor of Arkansas, he colluded with the Reagan administration to flood the Black community with crack cocaine in order to fund Reagan’s illegal war in Nicaragua. Then when he became president he signed the most draconian crime bill in the history of the United States and created the prison industrial complex that led to the mass incarceration of the victims of his crime - Black people. There after, that very same prison industrial complex became one of Hillary Clinton’s biggest political contributors. Then, when he wanted to get himself and Hillary back into the White House, Bill went to the NAACP and tried to apologize for it.  So during the primaries I was shocked at how few Black people knew about this stuff, and how they flocked to Hillary Clinton's side. I began writing about it, but many Black people just seemed mesmerized by the Clintons.  I just wish I had started writing about it a year before the primaries began.
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    Because the fact is, Bill and Hillary Clinton are conservatives in drag. They walk like liberals, and talk like liberals, but they always leave conservative policies behind. In fact, they've been more successful in passing fiscally conservative legislation than the GOP - the passing of NAFTA, allowing corporations to send $20 an hour jobs out of the country to be performed for $5 an hour in other countries; the gutting of Glass-Steagall, allowing commercial banks to gamble with our deposits, and led directly to the 2008 Wall St. crisis; the elimination of the Fairness Doctrine, leading to the dumbing down of America, and making propagandist networks like FOX News possible, etc., etc.
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    Thus, Bill and Hillary Clinton are "Republicrats" whose mission in life is to drag the Democratic party to the right. Hillary is the same closet Republican that she’s always been (President of the “Young Republicans" in college), and Bill is a White Southern Dixiecrat. When Hillary was running against Barack Obama in 2008, in an attempt to get Ted Kennedy's support, Bill Clinton said, "A few years ago this guy would have been carrying our bags."  True liberals don't talk like that. In fact, the reaction of one of my White neighbors to the comment is how I found out about it.  She called me screaming over the phone - "Did you hear what that racist bastard said about Barack Obama!!!?" So the Clintons are far from liberal; they're just just calculating. They saw which way the wind was blowing during the sixties, and made the cynical decision to take advantage of it.
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    Snopes: "On April 23, 2016, Charles Koch was briefly on air on ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopolous. During that interview, ABC Correspondent Jonathan Karl asked Koch, “So is it possible that another Clinton could be better than another Republican this time around?"  Koch responded, 'It’s possible. It’s possible.' When pushed by Karl about whether he could see himself supporting Hillary Clinton, Koch hesitated, 'Well... we would have to believe her actions will be quite different from her rhetoric, let’s put it that way' - and it always is.

    Hillary specializes in "dog-whistling" - saying things to the public in a way that has an entirely different meaning to the 'dogs' who are listening than it does to the general population ( the assassination remark is a perfect example of that).   In addition, James Comey, the head of the FBI, who didn’t indict Hillary in spite of clear evidence that she committed several crimes that others have gone to jail for, is a Republican. And if we weren't existing in a plutocratic environment,  based purely on the FBI director's comment that she was "extremely careless" with classified information, at the very least, Hillary Clinton should be stripped of her security clearance, making it impossible for her to run for president.
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    So we’re being played - again.  It's no longer Democrats against Republicans, it's a sibling rivalry between oligarchs. It's no long about liberals protecting America from the greed and excesses of conservatives, it's about which faction of conservatives are going to control America. So the people have simply got to insist that this woman step aside. Sixteen years later America is still suffering from the adverse affects of the last time we allowed the Clintons in the White House. Let us not cut our throats again.  And Black people, please wake up.
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    "New Democrats, also called Centrist Democrats, Clinton Democrats or Moderate Democrats, is an ideologically "centrist" faction within the Democratic Party that emerged after the victory of Republican George H. W. Bush in the 1988 presidential election." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democrats.

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    So please watch this video - and before you fluff it off as just another hit piece on the Clintons, notice that the investigators in the video were Clinton supporters, so they tried their best not to make Bill look bad, but these are prosecutors, and the facts are the facts. In addition, this is not just some video thrown together by Clinton haters; this is a 21/2 hr. documentary base on news footage of the time. In fact, it's not really even about the Clintons. It’s about the Iran/Contra scandal. The Clintons are just involved. So there’s no wiggle room here concerning the Clintons. The video is completely legitimate. In fact, one of the reporters in the video won a Pulitzer Prize.
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    CIA AND DRUG TRAFFICKING

    In the 623rd paragraph, the report described a cable from the CIA's Directorate of Operations dated October 22, 1982, describing a prospective meeting between Contra leaders in Costa Rica for "an exchange in [the United States] of narcotics for arms, which then are shipped to Nicaragua."[16][non-primary source needed] The two main Contra groups, US arms dealers, and a lieutenant of a drug ring which imported drugs from Latin America to the US west coast were set to attend the Costa Rica meeting. The lieutenant trafficker was also a Contra, and the CIA knew that there was an arms-for-drugs shuttle and did nothing to stop it.[15]

    The report stated that the CIA had requested the Justice Department return $36,800 to a member of the Meneses drug ring, which had been seized by DEA agents in the Frogman raid in San Francisco. The CIA's Inspector General said the Agency wanted the money returned "to protect an operational equity, i.e., a Contra support group in which it [CIA] had an operational interest."[15]

    Testimony of the CIA Inspector General

    Six weeks after the declassified and heavily censored report was made public, Inspector General Hitz testified before a House congressional committee.[15] Hitz stated that:

    Volume II ... will be devoted to a detailed treatment of what was known to CIA regarding dozens of people and a number of companies connected in some fashion to the Contra program or the Contra movement that were the subject of any sort of drug trafficking allegations. Each is closely examined in terms of their relationship with CIA, the drug trafficking activity that was alleged, the actions CIA took in response to the allegations, and the extent of information concerning the allegations that was Shared with U.S. law enforcement and Congress.

    As I said earlier, we have found no evidence in the course of this lengthy investigation of any conspiracy by CIA or its employees to bring drugs into the United States. However, during the Contra era, CIA worked with a variety of people to support the Contra program. These included CIA assets, pilots who ferried supplies to the Contras, as well as Contra officials and others. Let me be frank about what we are finding. There are instances where CIA did not, in an expeditious or consistent fashion, cut off relationships with individuals supporting the Contra program who were alleged to have engaged in drug trafficking activity or take action to resolve the allegations.[17][18]

    Hitz also said that under an agreement in 1982 between Ronald Reagan's Attorney General William French Smith and the CIA, agency officers were not required to report allegations of drug trafficking involving non-employees, defined as paid and non-paid "assets"—pilots who ferried supplies to the contras, as well as contra officials and others.[17][18]

    This agreement, which had not previously been revealed, came at a time when there were allegations that the CIA was using drug dealers in its controversial covert operation to bring down the leftist Sandinista government in Nicaragua.[18] Only after Congressional funds were restored in 1986 was the agreement modified to require the CIA to stop paying agents who it believed were involved in the drug trade. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking

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    So there you have it. The Clintons were involved in a scheme that completely destroyed hundreds of thousands of Black lives, and is still having a negative impact on Black people.  There's currently a huge part of an entire generation of young Black people who don't know anything about their culture, and don't really know what it means to be Black, because the people who were responsible for teaching them were either dead, in prison, or mentally disabled by the affects of crack cocaine. As a direct result, instead of developing their potential and preparing for the future, many of these young people, who were literally raised by the corporate media, has been conditioned to believe that their role in life is to be criminals, drug addicts, and at the very bottom of society. In addition, they're being mesmerized by the media by being fed a constant diet of music that celebrates drug use, killing one another, and referring to the very womb of their culture as "bitches and hoes." So their fate is all but sealed. Yet, many Black people are falling all over one another to put two of the people who are partially responsible for this state of affairs back  into the White House. The situation is beyond sad, it's disgusting.
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    But while many Black people are asleep, karma is wide awake. By the time Reagan died, he was not only wearing a diaper, but he couldn't even remember that he used to be president.


    "A citizenry of sheep begets a government of wolves." - Edward R. Murrow

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    Eric L. Wattree
    http://wattree.blogspot.com/
    [email protected]
    Citizens Against Reckless Middle-Class Abuse (CARMA)
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    Religious bigotry: It's not that I hate everyone who doesn't look, think, and act like me - it's just that God does.

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    Reformatting and reposting again

    Here is an Atlantic reveal of the Clinton scandals including the Mena nonsense 

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1996/10/clinton-scandals-inc...

    Bill apologized for the crime bill.

    Hillary apologized for the crime bill

    Snake in the grass Bernie Sanders did not apologize for his role in passing the crime bill. Hillary actual began changing her stance on fighting crime before Sanders changed his. Sanders touted signing the crime bill on his website during his Senate run in 2006

    Link to Hillary vs Sanders changing stance on crime

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sanders-now-a-reformer-once-boasted-of-being-...

    Link to Sanders 2006 website. Item 1 is his tough on crime stance by voting for the crime bill

    https://web.archive.org/web/20061018180921/http:/www.bernie.org/truth/cr...

    Sanders passed it, but is so immoral that he simply said that he wished he had a better bill. Shouldn't we demand an apology from Bernie?

    In summary, the Mena story is nonsense no matter how often it is repeated. Bernie Sanders is not man enough to apologize for passing the 1994 crime bill.


    Here's my ol' neighbor . . .

    Gee I wonder why this comes to mind every time I open one of Eric's threads?

    https://youtu.be/lBOgH5f36cQ

     

     

     

     

     

    Maybe ol' Cab was just one of those "Porch" dudes.


    ~OGD~


    Great song


    Great song


    The idea that blacks cannot master language or any field of endeavor is ridulous

    The early publication by a black person in the colonies was by Jupiter Hammond in 1761. The man was a slave able to read and write. A recently discovered poem noted that he had an anti-slavery tone at a time when that was extremely dangerous

    http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/UTA-Student-Discovers-Forgotten-Poem-by...

    Blacks are not criminals or hood rats. 

     


    Now that you've heard his story. Hey boys hand me over another shot of the booooooooze.


    CIA AND DRUG TRAFFICKING

    In the 623rd paragraph, the report described a cable from the CIA's Directorate of Operations dated October 22, 1982, describing a prospective meeting between Contra leaders in Costa Rica for "an exchange in [the United States] of narcotics for arms, which then are shipped to Nicaragua."[16][non-primary source needed] The two main Contra groups, US arms dealers, and a lieutenant of a drug ring which imported drugs from Latin America to the US west coast were set to attend the Costa Rica meeting. The lieutenant trafficker was also a Contra, and the CIA knew that there was an arms-for-drugs shuttle and did nothing to stop it.[15]

    The report stated that the CIA had requested the Justice Department return $36,800 to a member of the Meneses drug ring, which had been seized by DEA agents in the Frogman raid in San Francisco. The CIA's Inspector General said the Agency wanted the money returned "to protect an operational equity, i.e., a Contra support group in which it [CIA] had an operational interest."[15]

    Testimony of the CIA Inspector General[edit]

    Six weeks after the declassified and heavily censored report was made public, Inspector General Hitz testified before a House congressional committee.[15] Hitz stated that:

    Volume II ... will be devoted to a detailed treatment of what was known to CIA regarding dozens of people and a number of companies connected in some fashion to the Contra program or the Contra movement that were the subject of any sort of drug trafficking allegations. Each is closely examined in terms of their relationship with CIA, the drug trafficking activity that was alleged, the actions CIA took in response to the allegations, and the extent of information concerning the allegations that was Shared with U.S. law enforcement and Congress.

    As I said earlier, we have found no evidence in the course of this lengthy investigation of any conspiracy by CIA or its employees to bring drugs into the United States. However, during the Contra era, CIA worked with a variety of people to support the Contra program. These included CIA assets, pilots who ferried supplies to the Contras, as well as Contra officials and others. Let me be frank about what we are finding. There are instances where CIA did not, in an expeditious or consistent fashion, cut off relationships with individuals supporting the Contra program who were alleged to have engaged in drug trafficking activity or take action to resolve the allegations.[17][18]

    Hitz also said that under an agreement in 1982 between Ronald Reagan's Attorney General William French Smith and the CIA, agency officers were not required to report allegations of drug trafficking involving non-employees, defined as paid and non-paid "assets"—pilots who ferried supplies to the contras, as well as contra officials and others.[17][18]

    This agreement, which had not previously been revealed, came at a time when there were allegations that the CIA was using drug dealers in its controversial covert operation to bring down the leftist Sandinista government in Nicaragua.[18] Only after Congressional funds were restored in 1986 was the agreement modified to require the CIA to stop paying agents who it believed were involved in the drug trade

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking


    Sigh

    Bill Clinton comes in where?


    The CIA doesn't limit their contacts to choir boys.

    Hitz also said that under an agreement in 1982 between Ronald Reagan's Attorney General William French Smith and the CIA, agency officers were not required to report allegations of drug trafficking involving non-employees, defined as paid and non-paid "assets"—pilots who ferried supplies to the contras, as well as contra officials and others.[17][18]

    So?   What is your point?  What does this hav to do with any indisputable evidence?  Especially with the finding of "no evidence of any conspiracy by CIA or its employees to bring drugs into the United States."  And what is the connection to the Clintons?

    It doesn't stand on its own. How does this prove any particular thing you have mentioned?

     


    However, during the Contra era, CIA worked with a variety of people to support the Contra program. These included CIA assets, pilots who ferried supplies to the Contras, as well as Contra officials and others. Let me be frank about what we are finding. There are instances where CIA did not, in an expeditious or consistent fashion, cut off relationships with individuals supporting the Contra program who were alleged to have engaged in drug trafficking activity or take action to resolve the allegations.[17][18]

    Hitz also said that under an agreement in 1982 between Ronald Reagan's Attorney General William French Smith and the CIA, agency officers were not required to report allegations of drug trafficking involving non-employees, defined as paid and non-paid "assets"—pilots who ferried supplies to the contras, as well as contra officials and others.[17][18]

    This agreement, which had not previously been revealed, came at a time when there were allegations that the CIA was using drug dealers in its controversial covert operation to bring down the leftist Sandinista government in Nicaragua.[18] Only after Congressional funds were restored in 1986 was the agreement modified to require the CIA to stop paying agents who it believed were involved in the drug trade

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking


    Repeating the exact same things you posted 2 inches above does not make your arguments stronger.  Is there a legitimate reason for doing this? Seriously?  Word for word?


    The Clintons were involved in a scheme that completely destroyed hundreds of thousands of Black lives, and is still having a negative impact on Black people.  There's currently a huge part of an entire generation of young Black people who don't know anything about their culture, and don't really know what it means to be Black, because the people who were responsible for teaching them were either dead, in prison, or mentally disabled by the affects of crack cocaine. As a direct result, instead of developing their potential and preparing for the future, many of these young people, who were literally raised by the corporate media, has been conditioned to believe that their role in life is to be criminals, drug addicts, and at the very bottom of society. In addition, they're being mesmerized by the media by being fed a constant diet of music that celebrates drug use, killing one another, and referring to the very womb of their culture as "bitches and hoes." So their fate is all but sealed. Yet, many Black people are falling all over one another to put two of the people who are partially responsible for this state of affairs back  into the White House. The situation is beyond sad, it's disgusting.
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    But while many Black people are asleep, karma is wide awake. By the time Reagan died, he was not only wearing a diaper, but he couldn't even remember that he used to be president.


    You call yourself a hood rat., why are you outraged at bitches and hoes?

    Bernie Sanders voted in favor of the 1994 crime bill.

     


    BLACK PEOPLE!  ARE YOU LISTENING!!!?  NOW’S THE TIME TO FIGHT, NOT WHEN OUR CHILDREN ARE LYING IN THE STREET - AND BEFORE THE CONVENTION IS OUR LAST CHANCE
     
    Dennis,
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    I want to thank you for the compliment, but I reject your opinion of yourself out of hand. You’re aware of what’s going on around you, and you’re a seeker of objective truth.  That’s my definition of intelligence, and I would tend to agree with what you’ve said if it weren’t for the specialized knowledge that I have of the Clintons.  You asked,
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    “Isn't the simplest conclusion that the root cause of this is political? And that all this stuff about character or trustworthiness merely a cover and effective way to slander?”
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    The answer is, no it isn’t. Please take the time to read the following (that’s been fully documented) and then get back with me and tell me what you think.  My opinion is no more valid than your own. Never give anyone’s ability to think priority over your own. Simply seek out the facts and connect the dots for yourself,  because God (or nature) didn’t give any man anything that he (or she) didn’t also give you. So it’s the facts that are lofty and hold weight, not any one  person - and here are the facts, and why I’m on such a mission to prevent Hillary Clinton from becoming President of the United States. While I do support Bernie, my motives have absolutely nothing to do with him.  I’m not against Hillary because I support Bernie; I support Bernie because I’m against Hillary. Somebody in the Black community needs to speak out, and I don’t hear it happening, so I’m doing it.
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    INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE THAT THE CLINTONS ARE CLOSET CONSERVATIVES, CORRUPT, AND WORKED WITH RONALD REAGAN TO VICTIMIZE THE BLACK COMMUNITY
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    http://wattree.blogspot.com/2016/07/indisputable-evidence-that-clintons-...
     
     

    If you truly want to stop Hillary it's important to talk honestly about her supporters. As you posted several times, "It is my position that ANY Black person who supports Bill and Hillary Clinton is the direct equivalent of a civil rights worker supporting David Duke." When the president of the United States is in your opinion "the direct equivalent of a civil rights worker supporting David Duke" that's significant. I don't think I agree with your assessment of Obama who I think was a moderately good president especially when one considers the obstruction from the republican congress. Could you clarify in regards to Obama what you mean when you say, "They either have an agenda, or they are a low-information voter"  What do you think Obama's agenda is with his unequivocal endorsement of Hillary? Or do you think he is ignorant, a low information voter?

    Wattree posted, "It is my position that ANY Black person who supports Bill and Hillary Clinton is the direct equivalent of a civil rights worker supporting David Duke. They either have an agenda, or they are a low-information voter"


    Ocean-Kat,

    Barack Obama doesn't even like Hillary or Bill as people. In 2008, when Hillary clinton was running against him, Bill told Ted Kennedy, "A few years ago this guy would have been carrying our bags." .  And there's strong evidence that Hillary Clinton tried to dog-whistle his assassination.



    Bill Clinton tried to get Barack to make Hillary his vice president, but there was no way in hell he was going to place Hillary a heartbeat from the presidency. He enjoyed breathing too much, but he did make her Secretary of State in order to reunite the Democratic party. But she did campaign for him, so he's returning the gesture in kind.  That's all that should be read into it.
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    But personally, I think he's making a big mistake, because it's going to damage his legacy.  She's already tarnished his administration with a scandal, and she should be losing her security clearance.  But worse, the Republicans are gearing up to turn this into the biggest political circus since Watergate - and right in the middle of the general election. Actually, Hillary has saved their bacon. The GOP had written this election off. 
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    But now, they're talking about doing a congressional investigation of the FBI. That will give them access to all of the FBI files in the email investigation, and what they're going to find is they let Hillary skate, in spite of the fact that she endangered national security. Then they're going after Obama for it, and it could very well put Trump in the White House.  So Hillary need to withdraw, because she's a liability to the Democratic party. There are a few delegates already flipping.
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    But that's Hillary's MO. Every major task she's ever touched in her entire career has been drenched in scandal, corruption, and has become a total disaster. She's the Lucille Ball of American politics - but only, she's also corrupt. 

     

     

     


    Ah, I see. What you're saying is that Obama is betraying the black population just because Hillary campaigned for him. Seems like an incredibly small reason for Obama to decide to be "the direct equivalent of a civil rights worker supporting David Duke." I've always thought Obama was a man of honor and integrity even though I've sometimes disagreed with his decisions. But you think he's the type of guy who would betray his principles just to return a favor.


    He's a politician doing what politicians do. Play politics. Obama is a very impressive man in many ways, but he is a man so he's flawed just like any other man. I don't worship Obama either. Personally I think he's a damn fool to be out campaigning for Hillary - and he scheduled the campaign appearances while she was still under investigation. That was a bonehead move too, because it gives the appearance that the "fix" was in long before Comey announced the results of the investigation. So yeah, Obama can make dumb moves just like everybody else. Who do you think he is, God? 

    But if I had him before me right now, I'd say, "Barack, you're a damn fool."  But what he would more than likely tell me is, "Grow up, Eric. You can't be a politician without being willing to sacrifice your principles, because you can't play poker at a Blackjack table. So I understand the necessity to weigh my options. That's why Bush and Cheney are not in jail as we speak. That's why I'm president and you're a political gadfly. It's easy for you to sit around and be moralistic, because you don't have the responsibility of running the free world on your shoulders. So just shut up and pass the damn gin" 
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    "Yeah, Barack, but I'm just sayin' . . ."

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    "Man, will you just pass the damn gin and shut the hell up before I call Agent Brutus in here to take it from you!!!?"
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    "Yeah, but . . ."
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    "But, my ass!!! Pass the damn gin, and that's an Executive order!!! Agent BrutusI
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    "Here man, take this shit - and and I hope you choke on it!!!"  

      
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    Just politics? You said it was "the direct equivalent of a civil rights worker supporting David Duke." A black man supporting the Grand Wizard of the KKK is considerably more than just politics in my mind. Seems to me you see Obama as a complete sell out for even trivial political gains.


    He didn't say "carrying our bags" as the article clarifies, but is *alleged* to have said "bringing us coffee", which any inexperienced intern might do. It shows how easy people can shift some words and get people like you huffing about 'racism' and all. Lies travel the world before the truth can get its sneakers on. And you help those lies spread a little faster, God bless you. We all gotta do our part.


    . Bill Clinton made insensitive 'race jab' about Obama in 2008 | New ...
    nypost.com/.../bill-clinton-made-insensitive-race-jab-about-obama-in-...
    New York Post
    Sep 3, 2012 - HE SAID WHAT?! Bill Clinton allegedly once said of Barack Obama, “A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags.” Photo: AP
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    . 'A few years ago he would've been carrying our bags ... - Daily Mail
    www.dailymail.co.uk/.../New-report-reveals-insensitive-racial-remark-Bill-...
     
    Daily Mail
    Sep 3, 2012 - MailOnline US - news, sport, celebrity, science and health stories ... 'A few years ago he would've been carrying our bags': New report reveals the insensitive ... Mr Clinton is said to have torn into Mr Obama and branded him ..... 'My heart is broken': Sharon Stone nearly breaks down in tears while at LAX as ...
     
    . Let's Be Friends - The New Yorker
    www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/09/10/lets-be-friends
     
    The New Yorker
    Sep 10, 2012 - Barack Obama and Bill Clinton have never been close. ... the 2008 Democratic primaries, when Hillary Clinton ran against Obama for .... In South Carolina, Obama's campaign suggested that Clinton's “fairy tale” comment had racial overtones. ... “A few years ago, this guy would have been carrying our bags.
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    Bill Clinton: 'A Few Years Ago,' Obama Would Be 'Carrying Our Bags'
    www.christianpost.com › politics
    The Christian Post
    Sep 4, 2012 - In noting that the relationship between former President Bill Clinton ... Edward Kennedy that "a few years ago, this guy (Obama) would have been carrying our bags. ... in a conversation before the South Carolina primary in 2008 as Clinton ... The Obama campaign suggested the comment smacked of racism ...
    Bill Clinton to Ted Kennedy: In The Past, Obama Would Be 'Carrying ...
    www.chicagonow.com/.../bill-clinton-to-ted-kennedy-in-the-past-obama-...
     
    ChicagoNow
    Sep 3, 2012 - In 2008 during that contentious Democrat primary that pitted Hillary Clinton ... that Bill Clinton was already being accused of acting in a racist manner by ... This "carrying our bags" line could easily be read as harkening back to the ... the book claim was a garbled report of this “bags” comment, either way).
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    . Bill Clinton made racist remarks about Barack Obama in 2008: Report
    www.ndtv.com › World
    NDTV
    Sep 3, 2012 - Former US President Bill Clinton had taken a racial jibe at Barack Obama in 2008, saying "this guy would have been carrying our bags",
     
     
     
     

    Tom Cruise as CIA’s Barry Seal in ‘Mena’: movie could derail Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush
     
    Alan Jones
     
    (1776 Channel) — Hollywood actor Tom Cruise is reportedly in talks to portray hefty renegade drug pilot Adler ‘Barry’ Seal, a central figure in a true story that involves one of America’s darkest secrets since the Kennedy assassination: CIA-sanctioned cocaine import/weapons export smuggling between Central America and Arkansas during the 1980s Iran-Contra affair. The project, tentatively titled Mena, will be distributed by Universal Pictures and directed by Doug Liman of Bourne Identity fame.

    This studio theatrical release of the Barry Seal story featuring A-List actor Cruise could spell disaster for the 2016 presidential campaigns of Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush if the producers choose not to expunge politically explosive details from Seal’s clandestine life.

    Governor William Jefferson Clinton (husband of Hillary Clinton) is alleged by an FBI/CIA whistleblower to have protected Seal’s Mena, Arkansas air base and flight operations and to have subsequently received quid pro quo CIA support that secured his meteoric rise to the U.S. Presidency.

    Bill Clinton publicly denied those allegations when confronted by legendary White House correspondent Sarah McClendon.
     
    Seal is alleged to have blackmailed Vice President Herbert Walker Bush by threatening to release surveillance video of brothers George Walker and Jeb Bush using the family’s Beechcraft King Air turboprop to accept delivery of two kilos of cocaine during a 1985 DEA drug sting at an airport near Miami. Seal was brutally assassinated by members of the Medellin Cartel in Baton Rouge, Louisiana a short time later. Some reports claim that Seal’s body was found with Vice President Bush’s personal phone number still in his wallet.
     
     
     

    Eric one of the YouTube videos in your link is of a former Air Force intelligence agent interviewed by Alex Jones. Many people would question the reliability of a person considered a source by Alex Jones.

    Additionally, there is an AP report that calls the CIA drug running scam and the Bill Clinton connection hogwash according to multiple investigations.

    http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1996/Investigation-Absolves-CIA-in-Alleged-...

    ​Finally Sarah McClendon, the WH reporter who asked Bill Clinton about Mena was known for asking questions to quash things in the rumor mill.

    She asked about a rumor of a UN takeover of the military and a FEMA concentration camp

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X6dwWXclkMQ

    ​McClendon also called for revealing the truth about UFOs

    http://rense.com/general/fading.htm

    I know none of this information will change your opinion that Bill Clinton was running drugs, but I hope you look at the info as use it as food for thought.

     

     

     


    Sarah Newcomb McClendon (July 8, 1910 – January 8, 2003) was a long-time White House reporter who covered presidential politics for a half-century. McClendon founded her own free-lance news service as a single mother in the post-World War II era, and became known as a model for women in the press and as a vocal advocate of various causes, particularly those of United States military veterans. McClendon was best known, however, for her questions at United States Presidential press conferences, which often ranged from aggressive to brash or blunt.
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    In June 1944, after McClendon's discharge from the Women's Army Corps, famed newspaperman Bascom N. Timmons hired McClendon as a Washington correspondent for the Philadelphia Daily News.[4] In 1946, when Timmons discharged McClendon to make room for reporters returning from service in World War II, McClendon started her own service, the McClendon News Service,[5] which provided Washington dispatches and columns to member newspapers[7] and personal subscribers. A single mother, McClendon often brought her young daughter to news conferences.[5]

    For the next several decades, McClendon attended White House press conferences on behalf of the McClendon News Service,[7] becoming a Washington institution. She became known for her sharp questions.
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    Writing in The Nation and The Village Voice McClendon was the only prominent reporter to keep alive the Mena drug story.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_McClendon
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    A LOGICAL FALLACY
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    You judged something as either good or bad on the basis of where it comes from, or from whom it came.
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    This fallacy avoids the argument by shifting focus onto something's or someone's origins. It's similar to an ad hominem fallacy in that it leverages existing negative perceptions to make someone's argument look bad, without actually presenting a case for why the argument itself lacks merit.
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    Example: Accused on the 6 o'clock news of corruption and taking bribes, the senator said that we should all be very wary of the things we hear in the media, because we all know how very unreliable the media can be.
     
     

    Cut the crap Eric

    You provided a video with McClendon asking Bill Clinton about Mena. Clinton answers that he knew nothing about any wrongdoing at the airport. Clinton noted investigations had been conduction. The video headline says that Clinton lied about Mena but offers no proof of a lie. McClendon does not say that Clinton lied.I noted that McClendon would ask about fringe issues. Your cut and paste of a Wikipedia does not change the fact that McClendon did not say that Bill Clinton lied about Mena. I supplied an AP article that supported Bill Clinton's statement about Mena.

    You object to my rejecting something presented as fact because of the source. All rational human beings consider the source before taking data at face value. Alex Jones is a whack job. Ben Carson is a nut job despite being a neurosurgeon. Michelle Bachmann is a nut job despite being a tax attorney. This fact that these two people are crazy does not negate thee value of having been trained in a specific specialty. They just confirm the practice of considering the source. In the case of Ben Carson , it appears that he was an excellent pediatric neurosurgeon. I would not trust Carson to answer questions about a cardiac or pulmonary problem.At an institution like John's Hopkins, physicians know their limitations. Their are pediatrician so who are tasked to clear patients for surgery. This prevents pediatric neurosurgeons from operating on hemophiliacs without proper pre-op preparation. In his prime, Carson was probably the go to guy for pediatric brain lesions. I would not ask him for advise in other areas.

    Black people value education including that received at University. Blacks thirst for knowledge resulted in institutions we call HBCUs. If I have an ulcerated lesion on my forearm and a hood rat tells me to rub Vaseline on it, I will defer to the HBCU trained dermatologist who advises biopsy and excision. There are more blacks in college than at any time in history and that is a glorious thing.

    Your repeat cut and paste posts do nothing to support the charge that Bill Clinton was involved in running drugs in Mena. McClendon did not make that charge. The AP did not claim that Clinton was involved in drug running in Mena. Alex Jones charges that Clinton ran drugs in Mena. I reject Jones' charge just like I reject the hood rat's advice on my skin cancer.

    There is no proof that Bill Clinton had any connection to illegal activity in Mena, Arkansas.

    If you need tax advice from an attorney, investigate and find the best attorney you can find/afford. You may go to jail if you follow the advice of a hood rat. If your child has a brain lesion, find the best pediatric neurosurgeon that you can find. Your child may die if you follow the advice of a hood rat. 

    Do not expect the pediatric neurosurgeon to have expertise on Egyptian pyramid. Do not expect the tax attorney to be knowledgeable about politics.


    Agree with all of the above. It is also ridiculous to say that Clinton's "meteoric rise" to the Presidency was because of a quid pro quo from the CIA. He was and is a gifted politician, and HW Bush was tired and was lackluster as a candidate. What could the CIA even have done for him anyway?  This paranoia and innuendo-as-truth are getting me down. It is downright destructive.  I also think that stating that you are not in a cult is reminiscent of someone declaring she was not a witch.


    Eric, you just changed your post again without acknowledging what you changed.

    That leads to suspicion 

    You should also be aware that when you mention people like Dennis above in beginning a post, it is unclear how Dennis comes into the conversation. It seems that you are having a conversation with yourself. Who the heck is Dennis?


    Dennis Argentine Sir, I have been an admirer of your wit and passion ever since I came across your writing and have the utmost respect for how you conduct yourself online and your uncompromising efforts to educate and enlighten. But on this subject i believe some objectivity is lacking. I am not a particularly intelligent individual and I struggle at times to string a coherent thought into a sentence so please do not dismiss me if I need to provide a couple of links in an effort to make my point. Here i go. 1st would you not agree that since Congress controls the budget allocation process and is controlled by a party not only intent on "starving the beast" but capable of using this technique to underfund the executive branch and the agencies that fall under it's purview? With that in mind please read the following article. Emails show NSA rejected Hillary Clinton's request for secure smartphone
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3446736/posts. It seems something very mundane and bureaucratic is at the root of this "scandal " now stay with me here once again the leaders of this "inquiry " much like the ones in the 90s are guilty of the criminal they are so intent in proving.http://m.dailykos.com/.../-Those-times-when-Clinton-s... and this http://www.politicususa.com/.../time-jason-chaffetz-put.... as far as Mr chaffetz,http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1954912.html didn’t all this start over benghazi? Isn't the simplest conclusion that the root cause of this is political? And that all this stuff about character or trustworthiness merely a cover and effective way to slander? Thank you for your time and patience.

    ....emails....show a 2009 [Clinton] request to issue a secure government smartphone to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was denied by the National Security Agency.
    freerepublic.com
     

    BLACK PEOPLE!  ARE YOU LISTENING!!!?  NOW’S THE TIME TO FIGHT, NOT WHEN OUR CHILDREN ARE LYING IN THE STREET - AND PRIOR TO THE CONVENTION IS OUR LAST CHANCE
     

    Dennis,
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    I’m converting the thrust of your comment to me into an article. I hope you don’t mind, but I truly admire the mature and thoughtful way that you’ve approached this issue.
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    I want to thank you for the compliment, but I reject your assessment of yourself out of hand. We often make the mistake of thinking that intelligence is having the ability to do advanced math, or write the great American novel, but that’s not intelligence at all; those are skills. I offer up Dr. Ben Carson as a perfect example of my point. While it is alleged that he is a brilliant brain surgeon, he has demonstrated without a doubt that once he leaves the operating room, he can’t think his way out of a paper bag.  And I know many attorneys who are the same way. I did legal research and wrote legal briefs as a private contractor for several attorneys for over 20 years, and many of them used to call ME for legal advice. And if you can believe it, Michele Bachmann is a tax attorney, and I know high school students who can think her under the table.
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    You, on the other hand, are fully aware of what’s going on around you politically, and you have the maturity, insight, and common sense not to engage in the knee-jerk reaction of cognitive dissonance, frustration, and anger toward those who have a different take on our current political environment than yourself. Instead, you question, and seek out objective truth.  That’s my definition of intelligence, and it’s a joy to interact with a person of your caliber
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    You asked, “Isn 't the simplest conclusion that the root cause of this [criticism toward Hillary Clinton] political? And that all this stuff about character or trustworthiness merely a cover and effective way to slander?”
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    The answer is, no it isn’t. Please take the time to read the link below (that’s been fully documented) and then get back with me and tell me what you think. I will value your opinion, because I trust the quality of your mind and your objectivity. While I seriously doubt the position you’ve taken due to the facts in the public record, maybe there’s some things that I haven’t considered in this matter.  So I promise, whatever your response, I’ll give it serious consideration. 
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    And I want to assure you that I’m under no illusion that I’m speaking down to you from Mt. Olympus. I’ve long since recognize that I corner the market on neither knowledge, wisdom, nor intellect, so I don’t think my opinion has any more intrinsic value than yours. In discussions such as this, individuals are meaningless. It is truth that is lofty and holds the weight. So I promise to give truth priority over ideology, and I'll never try to bend truth into a more comfortable fit for my delusions of reality - and we all have them.  So in this discussion I intend to follow truth wherever it leads, and regardless to whose ox it gores.
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    And in that regard, I want to admit to being a Bernie Sanders supporter, but I’m not a Bernie Sanders cultist, I have much too much ego for that - I’m my own hero, not Bernie.  So while I do support Bernie, my motives have absolutely nothing to do with him as an individual. In other words, I’m not against Hillary because I support Bernie; I support Bernie because I’m against Hillary - passionately against Hillary.
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    I'm motivated by the fact that after what the Clintons have done to the Black community, somebody in the community needs to speak out against this woman, and since so many in the Black community are still mesmerized by Bill’s “first Black president” myth, it’s not happening - even the Black Congressional Caucus seems to remain bamboozled - so I decided I would do it.
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    So again, please read the link below and give me your thoughts. I’d appreciated it.

     

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