The Bishop and the Butterfly: Murder, Politics, and the End of the Jazz Age

    A Message to You, Rudy

    By PeraclesPlease on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 3:14am |

    Rudy Giuliano is the son of an organized crime enforcer for loan sharks and gamblers who spent time in Sing Sing for felony assault and gambling - as the great Casey Stengel said, "you can look it up".

    How Giuliano then gets to lecture Obama on his Hawaiian upbringing is anyone's guess, but yes, Rudy - Obama wasn't raised like you - his idea of "Family" doesn't equal "Mafia".

    Pass it on.

    Comments

    So what, his father was a gangster. It was reported, the 35 th President of the United States, John Kennedy's father was involved in illegal activities. Look it up  Bootlegging  

    Warren Delano (FDR's grandfather), were Americans. Drug "kingpins"

    Look here too  Drug king pins 

    Oh Lord what is this world coming too  

    This is also in reply to an earlier question you raised 

    Senator Obama:  “Running up the National debt is irresponsible …. unpatriotic” 

    @ .38 seconds 

    Both men and Party's wrapping themselves up in the flag to win elections. Imagine that.


    by Resistance on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 5:25pm

    Bush was handed a budget surplus by Clinton and he gave it away to the rich. Then he stared two unfunded wars and destroyed the economy. Obama was handed a destroyed economy, left to find a way to pay for Bush's unfunded wars and stabilize the economy with tax revenues down due to tax cuts for the rich and high unemployment. Obama's deficits were the inevitable result of Bush's disastrous policy choices.

    And you feed us faux "news" disinformation and propaganda. There are so many lies in your link I could pick it apart line by line. Though I wouldn't be as funny as Jon Stewart when he picks apart the lies. So I'll pick just one. "Basically we have a government that mails checks to the elderly and has a small army"

    A small army? Look at the Defense Spending by Country and tell me America has a small army. That's obviously the most stupid lie I've heard in years and of course it came from faux "news" And you wonder why people have no respect for your posts.


    by ocean-kat on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 5:32pm

     The evidence I provided were words spoken straight out of Obamas mouth. @38 seconds

    Are you now saying Obama did not say those words?  

    I am not arguing on the presentation as a whole, so your attempt to redirect away from Obamas own words, is disingenuous and a distraction  

    I am not disputing the differences in what the spoils are for the winning party.  

    Republicans subsides for the Rich  and defense department and Democrats subsidies for the poor  and welfare programs   Those are the SPOILS of war, to be paid for by the conquered 

    Both Capitalists parties are burying us in debt and for what...... to win elections? 

    In the END; What do they care if the working class becomes enslaved;

    that has been the plan all along.


    by Resistance on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 6:02pm

    The "evidence" you posted was a Faux news video. I've already pointed out one of the many lies in it. The Obama quote was correct at the time but conditions changed on the ground due to Bush destroying the economy. One can disagree with how Obama spent money to stabilize the economy, I certainly do. But the fact was that money had to be spent to keep the country from going into a depression after the Bush caused crash of the economy a few months before Obama was elected.


    by ocean-kat on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 5:58pm

    I haven't the time to search through all the archives to find if Democratic propaganda ministers would have this critical piece of film around.

     Im not taken in by anyones propaganda Right or Left.  . 

    One can disagree with how Obama spent money to stabilize the economy 

    Hey Sherlock. who got the money; The working class or the Capitalist/ Banker class?

    Edited to add 

    Query: Is bailout money paid for by the taxpayers,  being used to buy elections? 


    by Resistance on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 6:29pm

    Hey Sherlock.

    See that's why I'm done with this conversation. And the fact that you're not addressing any of my points while I've directly addresses your points.


    by ocean-kat on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 6:33pm

    .


    by Resistance on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 7:55pm

    Ocean, this is the reason I didn't reply and not because I didnt want to.

    Because others wanting to control, wouldn't' have liked our colloquy 

    Evidence  A Message to You, Rudy 

    They will decide what you and I can discuss. 


    by Resistance on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 8:01pm

    The original post was directed toward the statement made by Rudy regarding how "Obama wasn't raised the way you and I were."

    Your reply does not address the challenge made to defend such a statement.


    by moat on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 6:33pm

    If the poster finds I have strayed too far, let him respond, or are you a member of the Society of the Thought Police, Orwell warned us about? 


    by Resistance on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 7:28pm

    I laid no charge upon you nor have I arrested you. I haven't asked that you do or not do anything. I am not speaking for the original poster.

    My comment was merely an observation regarding the scope of your reply.


    by moat on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 8:12pm

    It  appears you have taken a page out of Putin's playbook on how to silence those who don't think like you. 

    Deny it all you want , It is clear You were attempting to pile on  in support of the charge of disruption against me 


    by Resistance on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 8:39pm

    The poster was amazed to wake up this morning and find not 26 reads but 26 *comments*.

    The poster was then greatly disappointed to find the discussion went off the rails immediately with distractive Resistance comment #1, a non-sequitor about JFK's father*, and then later his attack on Obama as being un-American because of a soundblip from a native Hawaiian**.

    Yeah, you destroyed the thread. Hope you had fun. Instead of talking about Rudy's hypocrisy, which was the obvious intent, you managed to flip it to an Obama smear-fest. I don't even like Obama but he didn't deserve this. Why don't you learn to think before you demagogue?

    *Obama didn't accuse JFK of being un-American because of his father - in fact he didn't accuse anyone of being un-American AFAIK though maybe he made the hardly unusual accusation that saddling the country with unpayable debt would be acting against the best interests of the country (i.e. "unpatriotic").

    Rudy on the other hand directly attacked Obama's upbringing as "not being one of us" and not loving America, which is pretty strange for some guy to question anyone's upbringing when he himself came out of a lawless Italian immigrant community with a father who was jailed for breaking the law and who would have then been raised between having a father in jail or one out assaulting people or running numbers. I think even JFK would have been careful about accusing his opponents of bad upbringing and being drunks and flouting the law.

    **America is built up of immigrants, including those angry about loss of native rights or situation in their forefathers homes. Including Eskimo/Inuit, AmerInd of all kinds, Irish, Italian, Jewish+Israeli, Cuban, Puerto Rican, Vietnamese, Suthurn, etc. Despite controversies and problems related to ethnic and religious rights, most of the people in this melting pot are pretty similar culturally despite having blobs of disparate behavior - e.g. our malls and schools and weekends all look pretty much alike even though we have some specific behavior that shows a bit of difference, as the saying goes, turn us upside down and we all look the same, or "in the melting pot the scum rises to the top", as evinced by Rudy certainly.

    Attacking people's patriotism is one of the stupidist parlor tricks in the deck, and lending credence to this crap even with your feigned stupidity is simply annoying. Yeah, like JFK's having to show he loves America more than the Pope, Obama I guess has to prove he's not a cult follower of the lineage of Queen Liliuokalani along with being a Musllim and Maasai warrior. Does Giuliani then have to show he loves America more than Sicily and his Capo and his bookie PLUS the Pope (unlike JFK, he did study for the priesthood) along with his twisted perverted home turf of Brooklyn as so excellently portrayed by Hubert Selby, Jr? And unlike so many from a broken home (like Rudy), Obama seems to know how to stay married and keep his kids out of trouble - perhaps from the pro-American values of his mother and grandparents.

    So get with the program, Resistance - unless you really have something interesting to say, stick with the subject and quit always being a distraction. As The Specials would say, stop your messing around...

     

     


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 3:17am

    Rudy Giuliano is the son of an organized crime enforcer for loan sharks and gamblers who spent time in Sing Sing for felony assault and gambling - as the great Casey Stengel said, "you can look it up".

    Hey everybody,  Rudy's dad was a criminal  Guilt by association 

    You write this lame introduction BS with the intent to immediately discredit Rudy, by guilt by association, because his DAD was a crook  so I point out, why should the son  be smeared because of the dad for you to make a point.

    Are you trying to reach an audience of fair minded folks or just feeding crap to your viewers? 

    Really lame  argument when you have to go after the son through his father. 

    If this is the defending argument of the Democrats/ Liberal  no wonder they'll keep losing to the Red States 

    Hey everybody,  Rudy's dad was a criminal  


    by Resistance on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 3:31am

    Brooklyn politician who paints opponent guilty by parentage turns out to have bad parentage. Who woulda guessed? Oh wait, it's a Republican - this happens all the time - like 3-times divorced Gingrich complaining about lack of family values. Draft dodger 5 time deferment Dick Cheney bashing people for not supporting the war.

    People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, eh? Is that such a difficult concept to grasp? i had it down at 3 years old, and I didn't even own a glass house.


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 10:21am

    Instead of talking about Rudy's hypocrisy,

    Oh theres plenty of that going around in both Parties  but I suppose you think you can fool the Democrats into believing NOT THEM?   Convincing the blind "Were better than they are" 


    by Resistance on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 3:38am

    In your goofy universe, you may think that when I write a post on 1 topic, that means I ignore every other topic, or excuse any other behavior. Most people learn to stick to the point. You not. If you want to talk about Democratic hypocrisy, write your own post & I'm likely to comment - on-topic, by the way.


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 4:40am

    Sorry to have ruined your post.

    Can  A moderator remove all of my replies and all others generated and give you a clean slate or can you copy and paste your short piece onto another blog post

    BYE 


    by Resistance (not verified) on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 5:06am

    It's like telling a joke a second time when it didn't come out right the first. No real do-over. In the end, I don't really care - I usually ignore these instant-outrage moments in media, but I just ran across Rudy's upbringing & found it hugely ironic & worth pointing out. But I did find it funny that after me not writing a diary in 2 years to get a bunch of comments - and find they more mostly irrelevant. C'est la vie. Should have kept my string intact.


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 5:23am

    Attacking people's patriotism is one of the stupidist parlor tricks in the deck, 

    That’s why a put the link showing the use of the Parlor trick, when it served Obama's needs.

    For according to you, Obama must have thought his audience was idiots, when he tried to pull off the parlor trick to get elected.

    Now when the other side uses it you want to claim foul and bring up Rudy’s dad?

    All the rest of your reply is to add to your less than informative introduction.

    Rudy on the other hand directly attacked Obama's upbringing as "not being one of us

    I have never heard Rudy attack Obama's father or mother so I beieve you are grasping for a straw.,

    It is not hard to understand why some people question Obama's upbringing from knowing what we do know.

    Many voters have the perception 

    He had association with a pastor who antagonized certain segments of the Population. (Despite all of the excuses to explain away the problem)  

    He comes from a State where the indigenous people hate American influence.

    A healthcare system for the Big Pharma and Insurance companies 

    Military strategy not working,  ISIL taking over areas we had already delivered and splilt precious blood. 

    and by applying that knowledge, to actions taken by the Administration some are asking, WTH?  

    My intent is not to defend Rudy or Obama  I am defending reason and not blind obeisance to either the Democratic Party or the Republican Party.

    Everybody, Go back to drinking your koolaid


    by Resistance on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 4:19am

    Try this straw from Rudy -

    GIULIANI: Well, his -- his grandfather introduced him to Frank Marshall Davis who was a communist who the president says.

    (CROSSTALK)

    KELLY: He fought in -- he fought in World War II!

    GIULIANI: OK. You can fight in World War II and then you introduce someone to a communist and the young boy gets.

    or this straw:

    And he doesn't love me. He wasn't brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up, through love of this country.

    or this straw:

    “Some people thought it was racist — I thought that was a joke, since he was brought up by a white mother, a white grandfather, went to white schools, and most of this he learned from white people,” Mr. Giuliani said in the interview. “This isn’t racism. This is socialism or possibly anti-colonialism.”

    And then you again launch into other irrelevancies - I didn't discuss Obama's preacher, Pharma, ISIS,whatever - it was a very simple post -  I referred to the son of a Mafia bastard criticizing the values Obama was raised with. Pot calling kettle black, got it? Giuliani's father raised him with "love of this country"? "yeah I loves this country - there's a rube and a mark on every corner to rip off..." The big-mouth New Yorker certainly plays to stereotypically stupid (and of course clowns around with Mafia stereotypes onstage to the embarrassment of Italian-Americans - again, "Family" values ).

    Re: "patriotism" - I think it's unpatriotic to take your country into self-destructive hugely expensive wars or to saddle the next generation with mountains of debt - yes, these are particular accusations for particular policies or actions - not a generic stupid "he doesn't worship the US enough, he didn't kiss the ass of Lincoln's statue every morning, etc. in a Teabagger fucked-up mythology of the Founding Fathers and American exceptionalism and all this other rhetorical bullshit. I can 't help if you don't see the difference between the concrete and the spuriously abstract & indefensible innuendo.

    And while this is slightly off-topic, every country in the world thinks it's "exceptional" - I've been in some real ratholes - large countries, tiny ones, rich & poor - and everyone has an inflated opinion of their own culture. It's more exceptional to be an unexceptionalist - that we have the same promise and abilities as most cultures, and it's important to funnel our efforts into successful paths forward than hateful regressive paths that end up like ISIS or the irresponsible Republicans who only manage to tear down and never manage to build something new & promising.


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 5:20am

    Everybody, Go back to drinking your koolaid

    Deserves its own reply - I *do* *not* *like* *Obama*. As a President, a bit as a personality. However I don't have any visceral feeling towards him. Unlike my visceral hatred for village idiots like Giuliani.

    So whatever "koolaid" you think I'm drinking, you're simply wrong. And considering how many times I'm out of lockstep with the prevailing wisdom and PC tilt for the "left", such as around the South, offshoring & NAFTA, events in Ukraine, Vietnam or the circumstances around the Iraq invasion, et al, I'm a bit surprised to be accused of drinking the koolaid. Perhaps we need a word check from the judges.


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 5:30am

    It really doesn't deserve it's own reply. Go back to drinking your koolaid isn't meant to make a point. It's not a rational persuasive argument. It's just meant to insult and get a rise out of people so they continue the conversation. "Everybody" was used to try to suck other people in. And he got you to criticize Obama, which is what he really wants since he's actually a right wing republican. At least his position on almost every issue is far right republican.

    He might just have well called you/everybody an asshole. Would that deserve it's own reply, an attempt to prove the insult incorrect? Well I may have an asshole but I also have two legs, arms, ears, a nose etc. Insults don't deserve a reply. They don't deserve to be treated as a rational argument. At most they need to be called out for what they are.


    by ocean-kat on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 9:07am

    Yeah, but at times I get called a typical right-wing troll, a typical Southerner, a typical Hillary supporter, a typical Obama hater, a typical Obama fan, a typical Rand Paul supporter, a typical American imperialist, a typical science denialist, a typical 9/11 denier, a typical warmonger, a typical racist & anti-Semite....

    Must be a pretty wild batch of koolaid they're spicing up these days - Jim Jones was primitive comparatively.


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 9:19am

    I am mortified that I fell into Resistance's trap once again.  I apologize.  I started this, I'm afraid, and it escalated from there.  The minute I see the word "Obama" in his comments I will program myself to look away.  JUST LOOK AWAY!

    Please post again sometime soon and we'll see if we can't do better by you.  Seriously.


    by Ramona on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 7:14am

    No worries - at least it didn't turn into a typical bible study discussion - I would have gone seriously Old Testament* at that point.

    *Religious-speak for "postal" or Church of Bob's "Yahweh II".


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 9:23am


    by rmrd0000 on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 10:16am

    Not sure why my post got deleted. It was a reference to falling into the same trap.


    by rmrd0000 on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 10:23am

    News item, February, 2025. Rudy Giuliano gave a speech at a bar on the outskirts of Selma.
    About 20 people attended. Tickets were $5 each, which included a free beer.


    by Oxy Mora on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 6:45pm

    I see that happening sooner then 2025. LOL...He will be the warm up act for Billo. 


    by trkingmomoe on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 7:35pm

    I have to say your Rudy comment is the best on this thread.  I was reading all the last night fun that I missed and yours still crack me up laughing.  Thanks for your humor.


    by trkingmomoe on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 1:30pm

    Obama on his Hawaiian upbringing is anyone's guess, but yes, Rudy - Obama wasn't raised like you 

    No he wasn't  ........Who said Hawaii loves America. or is patriotic towards the Mainland USA ?  

    Yes Obama was raised differently  than the citizens of the lower 48  

    Begin @31 seconds 

    @1:56  "We are not Americans" 

     


    by Resistance on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 7:35pm

    I've lived in Hawaii.  Have you?  I was in America when I lived in Hawaii.  American schools, American TV, American food, American politics.  One of the most beautiful places in America.  You ought to go there sometime.  They speak English and you don't need a passport.

    And in Hawaii we're not "the lower 48".  That would be Alaska.


    by Ramona on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 10:05pm

    Ergo...Sarah Palin hates America!


    by Michael Wolraich on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 10:23pm

    This is such a wondrous comment, and I do not know what the hell to do with it. hahahah

    Oh I saw you on the tellie.

    It was great.

    And you are great.

    And thank you for this blog and your associates and...

    Just, thank you!

    It has only been seven years, but some young folks still think Sarah is Tina Fey.

    Maybe that is a goooooooooood thing. hahahah


    by Richard Day on Fri, 03/13/2015 - 8:51pm

    That's true Mona, those of us who have lived in Hawaii know the other 48 are always referred to as the Mainland. 


    by tmccarthy0 on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 10:51pm

    True,Tmac.  And we were Haoles.  It was exotic but I never felt like I lived in a foreign country, did you?


    by Ramona on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 10:54pm

    Not at all it was just like being in the States with better weather and it was very different from the 11 years I spent in the Philippines. An actual foreign country!


    by tmccarthy0 on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 11:04pm

    It has been brought to my attention that there is some concern about my calling you a name, another person finds offensive  and I apologize for offending you or anyone.

    Sincerely

    R 


    by Resistance on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 3:04am

    People can talk about being in Hawaii but I doubt many wouldt understood a thing about its people.

    I have been to Hawaii and was so moved by pity, for Queen  Liliʻuokalani  and her people.

    I sat in her Second floor bedroom at ʻIolani Palace,  which became her prison.

    I looked out her window; envisioning the unobstructed Harbor view she must have had during her reign and reflecting upon her works as Queen

    Looking at the table, where she wrote her songs and memoirs; examining and admiring her beautiful quilts.

    Her book Hawaiʻi's Story by Hawaiʻi's Queen

    Hawaii's Story by Hawaii's Queen. - Digital Library Project

    America rebuilt Hawaii to fit its desires and  the exploiters who pillaged the Islands and settled there for their own personal reasons  couldn’t care less for the people and guess what;  the feelings are mutual.

    People who have no empathy for the Hawaiian people should be ashamed, but they're not. 


    by Resistance on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 12:28am

    The people in your video clip are native Hawaiians.  Like our native-Americans, they have a legitimate beef.  Their land was taken from them and it is now so pricey they could never afford to buy it back. 

    Obama has born in Hawaii but has no Hawaiian blood.  So don't worry.  He's not "one of them".


    by Ramona on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 10:28pm

    LOL. Nice one PP.


    by tmccarthy0 on Sat, 02/28/2015 - 10:46pm


    by Richard Day on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 12:46am

    I love this version   Thanks

    Other Side of the Rainbow


    by Resistance on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 1:34am

    You ever have something that sticks in your head?

    Look, Mac is right above us now.

    Just say you are sorry for calling her a liar.

    Please, I will never bring it up again.

    I know you are a nice guy at heart.

    I will never call for a debate again.

    I disagree with your positions all the time, but then you 'melt' me.

    Just say you are sorry to Mac.

    Mac is my friend also.

    And Mac is not a liar.

    I'm sorry, this has just bothered me a while.

    Otherwise, Hawaii is not a bad place to be born.

    I wondered at this great sojourn I made there years ago and there was this great pig baked in the earth with these wondrous dancers and then in the morn I snuck out to watch the sun rising amidst the seas.

    A wondrous site.

    And great coffee with a nice smoke to view it all.

    the end


    by Richard Day on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 2:04am

    If an apology will restore the peace, I apologize.

    Whether a mis- truth or mis- representation was spoken, I have no remembrance of what was said.

    There is not one person alive who hasn't slipped with  a thought or the tongue..

    Maybe you haven't? 


    by Resistance on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 2:42am

    Dick, apologize for sneaking "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" on my thread.

    I give you "Candles" and you give me this? Even my mother gushes over this.

    Here are some modern Hawaiian bands - http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2014/08/nine-hawaii-bands-you-should-listen-to-now.html - dudes/dudettes probably hoping to escape from the Don Ho school of regurgitated 1960's pop-on-ukelele so popular in Vegas.

    Here are more to break the mold.

    http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Honolulu-Magazine/September-2012/25-Greatest-Hawaii-Albums-of-the-New-Century/

    http://www.kingshawaiian.com/blog/the-all-time-best-hawaiian-music-playlist/

    And of course Taimane Gardner and Brittni Paiva

     

     


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 5:35am

    hahahahahhahahh

    I love this song.


    by Richard Day on Mon, 03/02/2015 - 1:27am

    We came across "Hawaiian Soul"while on vacation. They were fantastic

    http://www.hawaiiansoul.net


    by rmrd0000 on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 10:45am

    No offense, but it's led by stateside military types stationed around the world, even the girl - probably not much to do with Hawaii. As they note: "“Hawaiian Soul's” Performances have been likened to shows you would see in Las Vegas or Atlantic City. "


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 12:27pm

    It's easy to stereotype the band. The guitarist, Wes Aoki, is one typical image of native Hawaiian, but like President Obama, most band members were born in Hawaii 

    We were directed to the African-American Cultural Center on Honolulu

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/African-American-Diversity-Cultural-Cente...


    by rmrd0000 on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 5:01pm

    I looked up the band members, and 1 was from Philly, 1 from Tuscaloosa, etc.

    Note I did not "stereotype" the band - I simply used the description they use for themselves from their Website

    “Hawaiian Soul” transports it audiences back to the foot-stompin′, ‘rump-shakin’, non-stop good-party times of yesteryear. Performing classic hits, from the Temptations to Earth Wind and Fire; Sam Cooke to Luther Vandross; Stevie Wonder to Usher; Hawaiian Soul thrills and mesmerizes its listeners, combining more than Sixty years of Soul, R & B, Funk, Jazz, Dance and Country music that will simply make you want to snap your fingers, clap your hands, and stomp your feet!

    With its special renditions of 70′s, 80′s and 90′s hits, as well as classic Motown music and its own originals...


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 5:53pm

    Do you links?

    That is not what we not were told

    i know its a cover band


    by rmrd0000 on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 6:55pm

    i'm not a Facebook person but I got on to see if there were links. Hasani Lawson was born in Washington and has been in Hawaii since 1995 as best that I can tell. you were correct. i was operating under incorrect information. I apologize.


    by rmrd0000 on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 7:09pm

    No prob. The other info was direct from Hawaiian Soul's web page.


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 03/02/2015 - 1:58am

    When presented with facts the correct thing to do is admit error. Agreed?


    by rmrd0000 on Mon, 03/02/2015 - 7:19am

    Yes, all's good. No worries.


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 03/02/2015 - 7:28am

    Agreed only a small man does not admit error. 

    Guiliani says that Obama does not love his country. The dictionary definition of a patriot is someone who loves his country. Guiliani then says he did not question Obama's patriotism. It is hard to respect a man who does not admit error. Guiliani still has his fans though. 


    by rmrd0000 on Mon, 03/02/2015 - 7:56am

    Apologies to all because this os totally off-topic:  PP, I am so glad you posted this and your follow up comments. I admit I had a completely wrong impression of you. So glad to get to know you better!!

    thanks for taking the time to do this. 


    by CVille Dem on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 9:55am

    He is something, isn't he?

    I would get so goddamn mad at him. But then again I would award him some line of the day or something....

    The years confuse but he is having a good read lately.

    AND HE DESERVES IT.

    hahahah


    by Richard Day on Mon, 03/02/2015 - 4:19am

    People who live in mob houses shouldn't throw meatballs.


    by Michael Maiello on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 10:32am

    Isn't that "gnocchi see, gnocchi do"?


    by PeraclesPlease on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 12:09pm

    I canoli laugh.


    by Michael Maiello on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 6:51pm

    Like when Scots & Italians sing Auld Lasagne Syne.


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 03/02/2015 - 2:00am

    Takes me back to the first time I heard Chuck Berry sing "just give me that raw canoli music (if you wanna dance with me)"

    & Fred Astaire, of course -

    You say biscotti, I say bisc-oh-tti, you say can-ah-pés, I say "can o' peas"

    Bisc-ah-tti, bisc-oh-tti, canapés, can-oh-peas, let's call the whole thing off.

     


    by PeraclesPlease on Mon, 03/02/2015 - 2:34am

    Actually, you set up a verrry interesting (as a stereotypical shrink would say) compare/contrast of two cases with possible parental issues. Tortured by dreams/nightmares of father and how one might deal with that, or not....


    by artappraiser on Sun, 03/01/2015 - 1:21pm