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Obama's 2nd Term Historical Facet: The VP won't run for Prez

by Another Trope 9/21/2012 - 6:32 pm

The thing not really talked about is a modern political first: a sitting VP will not go after the presidential seat after the sitting president serves his two terms.  The likelihood is that if Obama is elected, Hillary Clinton will serve another year as SoS, then step down, re-energize, and emerge as the front runner in 2014.

This means that whatever the Obama Biden administration does will not be relevant to the 2016 campaingn.  If what they do is unpopular, HC can just say that was them, it won't be me. 

This allows Obama and Biden to tilt as far to left as they want.  For whatever reason, more people saw Biden's speech than any other speech for both the RNC and DNC.  As one put it, maybe people were just tuning in to see if he would make one of 'uncle joe" comments.

But if he can say what he wants to say for the next three years without it ultimately being held against the presidential candidate, then he just drag the national dialogue to a place the progressives want it to be.

(of course we have Cheney who did not run - but this was a result of poll numbers, not because Cheney didn't want to run for and be prez, unlike Biden who is bowing out  even before the 2nd term begins.)

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Here is his DNC speech

by Another Trope 9/21/2012 - 6:36 pm

Here is my third attempt at commenting--streaming issues I suppose!

Biden has been my hero for decades.

His one real mistake as far as I am concerned had to do with this coke-rock/coke or whatever it was disparity.

I was so astounded when I discovered that his speech drew more viewers than Obama or Mitt or Clinton for that matter! ha

I love this guy and he is just too damn old.

Too damn old to run for Prez.

But I bet he lives till 90 anyway and will always be a force to contend with.

If he ended up on the dem ticket four years from now; I would have no probs voting for him at all!

I love this little post because comparing him to the single most evil VP I have ever witnessed in the form of Cheney; Biden is an angel!

Oh and I have never ever heard one allegation that Biden ever made one outside dollar as a result of his legislative work!

Biden won this popularity contest as far as conventions and I love it!

by Richard Day 9/21/2012 - 7:08 pm

in 2021, Joe will be telling Micha and Joe on Morning Joe why people need to vote for Hillary's VP.

by Another Trope 9/21/2012 - 7:18 pm (re: Richard Day)

Progressives aren't going to be suckered by more orchestrated changes in the BS "national dialogue."  Both major parties are in the pockets of the richest people in America.  They are today, and they will be four years from now.  None of the mechanically fabricated speeches and talking points matter.  Change is going to have to come from the grass roots in ways that operate independently of the party structure.

by Dan Kervick 9/24/2012 - 12:24 am

Just to play what if for a bit:

IF Biden did run and won, how do you think he would do as POTUS?  More progressive or centrist?  Able to engage and expand bi-partisanship?   

by Aunt Sam 9/24/2012 - 1:40 pm

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