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I'm glad I am not the only

Richard Day — Tue, 24 May 2011 20:25:39 +0000

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I'm glad I am not the only one who got so excited.

Imagine, our consciousness changed 30-40 thousand years ago and it appears our souls morphed again more than ten thousand years ago.

Your links are much better than mine. I have already opened up two more tabs.

And I look at the sculptures growing out of the stone and I am reminded of Peru and the Mayan Peninsula and hundreds of other sites I have seen in docs and mags and the web.

I actually visited Stonehenge. Of course people do not realize that tourists are invited to a fenced in version--although I climbed the fence to touch one of the stones just to say I did it.

But Stonehenge does not approach the form and balance of this Turkish site! And there are no extant reliefs or sculptures.

I really thank you for this.

Now back to my tabs!

Much better picture Quinn.And

Richard Day — Tue, 24 May 2011 20:11:43 +0000

In reply to Turns out, Gobekli Tepe is

Much better picture Quinn.

And thank you for the links.

This entire story, now almost 2 decades old keeps unfolding, and more and more secrets are being uncovered.

And the art on the stonework!

i cannot get either of these two stories out of head.

And a BBC viddy that starts

quinn esq — Tue, 24 May 2011 20:03:33 +0000

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And a BBC viddy that starts about 1:50 in.

Ok ok.... I'm getting a little over-excited, Dick! ;-)

Turns out, Gobekli Tepe is

quinn esq — Tue, 24 May 2011 19:56:47 +0000

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Turns out, Gobekli Tepe is this month's cover of the National Geographic!

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/06/gobekli-tepe/mann-text/1

There's just so much to this site. Like... they think there's another 15-20 rings, over 80-100 acres, buried at the site....

And the way so many people link it to the Eden story, being between the Tigris and Euphrates, and showing so much life, and with two pillared figures "standing" in the middle of eacf circle!

And the first full-sized carved, humanesque figures.... Including that guy with the black obsidian eyes....

And apparently a movie about it here....

http://www.worldsfirsttemple.com/

Hey Dick!#1 - I'm DEFINITELY

quinn esq — Tue, 24 May 2011 18:09:26 +0000

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Hey Dick!

#1 - I'm DEFINITELY going to see Cave of Forgotten Dreams. There's a little cinema here, seats 20 or so, great view, great big comfy seats. Gonna try to see it there. Been dreaming of stuff like this for a long time.... be wonderful to see inside this cave, and with Herzog!

#2. Gobekli Tepe blew me away when I first saw stories on it. I don't think the public has in any way grasped what this place means. I mean, this whole temple-like place, built using enormous people resources and time, but all BEFORE pottery, before metal tools, before writing, before the WHEEL - but also BEFORE agriculture and (most) domesticated animals, and likely even BEFORE SETTLED HOMES AND COMMUNITIES.

Hunter-gatherers built this!!!!!

Which means, they built a permanent temple for the animals or ancestors or Gods or whatever it was... BEFORE building one for themselves.

"First came the temple, then came the city" as Schmidt says.

And that it is precisely HERE where they then went on to domesticate wheat!

So it looks like everything we were taught in school was.... backwards. The hunter-gatherers has the organization to do large-scale works like this (some pillars are 50 tons)... and had culturally reached a place of some sort of religion... BEFORE forming settled agricultural communities!

#3. And then, later, the locals actually came back and BURIED the whole site under earth they trucked in. How about that? This most incredible, maybe even FIRST place, and they... buried it. How perfectly human is that?

Anyhow. I came in by reading about the Natufian culture just to the South, and how they apparently had begun the process of settling down, domesticating crops, burying people and forming more permanent habitations there. I blogged once on it, the little 12,000 year old shaman woman they found buried near Nazareth, and the blog linked up at the end to Gobekli Tepe - which is perhaps an even more remarkable site. Well, that is, the Ice Weasels led me there.... ;-)

But I really hope people follow your links to the Smithsonian pictures. Just LOOK at this site!