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DDT is used in Africa today

artappraiser — Tue, 31 May 2011 01:36:54 +0000

DDT is used in Africa today to combat the scourge of malaria, which kills millions each year, WHO advocated its use indoors in malarial regions of Africa in 2006:

And there's a lawsuit about its use to fight malaria in Uganda; as it turns out, not only about the public health issues but how it has hurt the development of the organic farming business. US foreign aid is talking out of both sides of its mouth on it, supporting organic farming and supporting DDT for malaria which ruins the possiblility of organic farming.

If you mean 'hippies'

we are stardust — Mon, 30 May 2011 21:09:16 +0000

In reply to If you remember the Whole

If you mean 'hippies' wouldn't have voted for Hubert Humphrey over Bobby Kennedy, then I suppose you're right. Yes; we are/were a rather industrious bunch. Wanna arm-wrestle?

They had it comin'.

quinn esq — Mon, 30 May 2011 20:19:46 +0000

In reply to Yea. He's been jamming

They had it comin'.

If you remember the Whole

Rootman — Mon, 30 May 2011 19:03:45 +0000

In reply to Drum meant hippies all right,

If you remember the Whole Earth Catalog and such, the hippies were a very industrious bunch, but had a non-industrial vision of the economy. They didn't much see any relevance for trade unions. Mostly co-op stuff and share the land.

Yea. He's been jamming

LarryH — Mon, 30 May 2011 18:36:14 +0000

In reply to Tmc. I get it that you would

Yea. He's been jamming screwdrivers in people's eyes his whole life and now he has to live in a one room cabin on an ice flow in Northern Canada and the only thing keeping him afloat is the Ecology movement. Is that how you want to end up?

Remember what the song says:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uY2P1qndnM&feature=related

Tmc. I get it that you would

quinn esq — Mon, 30 May 2011 18:19:23 +0000

In reply to Silent Spring which was

Tmc. I get it that you would like to see traditional Democratic Party players and non-mainstream types (such as hippies, progressives and greens) come together and beat the Republicans. Most of them would like that too. But your way of putting things is basically to blame them for the parting of the ways, jam them in the eye with a screwdriver as having failed to achieve useful change, show that you know very little about them, then insist you want unity again. Sorry, I've been doing this all my life as well, and that kind of approach won't work. For instance, when I say hippies had an oversized influence in growing the environmental movement (and I'm not a hippie, by the way), you can't even support the point, but have to start into some jazz about Rachel Carson and Richard Nixon, and how important THEY were. Which is an area I kinda know about, and sorry, while Carson and Nixon played a role, if you think I'm making up the hippie influence stuff, then... you just don't know. Which leaves me feelingl like you're insisting that these people you detest and have no respect for should come over and do things YOUR way. Don't you think if you're actually aiming to bring these people together, you'd WANT to find out the good stuff they did, before pitching Richard Nixon's fabulous role?

Hey farmer, farmer, put away

Rootman — Mon, 30 May 2011 17:55:31 +0000

In reply to Mosquitoes were growing

Hey farmer, farmer, put away your DDT now.
Give me spots on my apples but leave me the birds and the bees, please.

What if the middle class

Rootman — Mon, 30 May 2011 17:51:54 +0000

In reply to The Genghis Law: Strength and Change Lie in Organization

What if the middle class stopped voting against its own interests?

Mosquitoes were growing

we are stardust — Mon, 30 May 2011 17:40:19 +0000

In reply to DDT was not used to kill

Mosquitoes were growing resistant to it, also. Our mosquito district now uses larvicides, which are more expensive, but tough crap. And after the ban, lots of it was dumped into Mexico, prompting concerns that we are still eating the stuff we import. Apparently some targets to phase it out there are helping now. Who knows for sure?

DDT was not used to kill

NCD — Mon, 30 May 2011 17:23:07 +0000

In reply to Silent Spring which was

DDT was not used to kill weeds. As Quinn says, you don't know jackshit about DDT if you think it was used on weeds!! In WWII typhus killed huge numbers of troops and refugees, and malaria was rampant in the tropical battle fields of the Pacific. DDT was considered to have saved millions of lives in the 1940's and 50's throughout the world because it wiped out the lice that spread typhus and the mosquitoes that spread malaria. Please just note these facts. I am just trying to educate those here who are unaware of history, I am not critical of the banning of DDT which as a persistent pesticide also wreaked wide and lasting environmental damage.

DDT was used extensively during World War II by the Allies to control the insect vectors of typhus — nearly eliminating the disease in many parts of Europe. In the South Pacific, it was sprayed aerially for malaria control with spectacular effects. Wiki

DDT is used in Africa today to combat the scourge of malaria, which kills millions each year, WHO advocated its use indoors in malarial regions of Africa in 2006:

The World Health Organization reversed a 30-year-old policy yesterday and declared its support for indoor use of the pesticide DDT to control mosquitoes in regions where malaria is a major health problem.

The Geneva-based WHO, which provides advice to many developing countries, believes the benefits of the long-acting pesticide far outweigh any health or environmental risk it may pose.