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We have become captive of

Barth — Sun, 19 Jun 2011 01:52:59 +0000

We have become captive of religion despite our founders best efforts. In the capitol of my state, Albany, we are debating what God will permit and we are not alone in this.

Quinn, was right and I

Resistance — Wed, 15 Jun 2011 03:04:43 +0000

In reply to Right. But he won't be

Quinn, was right and I believe this is a religous tolerance test. It's really none of our business unles he's broken the secular laws; he's not running for Congregation Servant.

How can his Congressional peers remove him from office for practicing an ancient religious practice?

Could he start his own Church?

The Phallic Worshippers?.

We dont have to approve of his conduct or that he idolizes his members, as long as he hasn't broken the law.

From a Christain viewpoint I find what he did an unacceptable behavior.

But who said his constituents were Christians, or that anyone, was owed an explanation for his type of worship?

I find his type of worship deplorable; but that doesnt disqualify him, because I deplore his actions, does it?

Is this religious tolerance, being put to the test?

Right. But he won't be

Barth — Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:54:45 +0000

In reply to Yes, I know he's not stupid

Right. But he won't be running in any citywide election. He will be running for re-election. If his district wants someone who keeps his penis to himself, he will lose. But he will win.

All the attention this story

Cho — Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:36:39 +0000

In reply to Yes, I know he's not stupid

All the attention this story is getting is the exact reason I thought he should have resigned quickly.

Yup, I don't understand why everyone is coming out in defense of this guy. He's a liability sucking up all the media oxygen when the focus should be on preventing the looming Medicaid cuts. It's a solid Dem seat so it's not like he personally is important. He starts by making a dumb move, piles on by lying and now is just being selfish. He should get out of the way.

Yes, I know he's not stupid

MrSmith1 — Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:04:03 +0000

In reply to Well, I sort of agree with

Yes, I know he's not stupid about everything. But in that area, wow. All the attention this story is getting is the exact reason I thought he should have resigned quickly. The story won't go away because he's helped the media to continue to find new angles; first with the 'I can't say it's not my penis' equivocation, then the admittance of lying, then the refusal to resign, then the underage 17 year old girl and now the going into some kind of rehab. We'll have a brief break after the report about his first day in rehab, then the story will be about him getting out of rehab and then speculation about when will he go back to his job, then the story will be about his first day back on the job and the reaction of his colleagues ...The story will be like a perennial flower that keeps coming back... until you pull it out by the roots. If he does the rehab, then goes away for awhile, works in the private sector or whatever, he MIGHT be able to rebuild his reputation and make a comeback somewhere down the road. If he keeps being so visible and reminding people about the scandal, he'll be toast, in any city-wide election, in my opinion.

Well, I sort of agree with

Barth — Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:41:36 +0000

In reply to I think that not voting---or

Well, I sort of agree with the stupidity part, but he is not stupid per se. At all. He could not use another identity since what he was doing depended on thrilling his young marks with his awesome title. It's really sad---nothing more and nothing less.

We live in a sex crazed time; witness all the attention this thing is getting. He needs help to rid himself of the obsession, if that is possible.

I spend most days in his district. He will have no trouble getting re-elected. If they try to district him out, it will anger his consituents. While that would not stop anyone, the districts are re-drawn in Albany , not D.C. and I suspect the Speaker with the most to do with those lines: Silver, not Pelosi, is not going to be impressed with the cries of anguish from the national party leadership.

If the election had been

MrSmith1 — Sun, 12 Jun 2011 03:34:00 +0000

In reply to I think that not voting---or

If the election had been close, of course, I would have held my nose and voted for Rangel. I'm not totally blind, I could see that Rangel was polling at about 70% or more, so my leaving the ballot blank was not going to potentially lose him the election.

But it really bothers me that Weiner was so fucking stupid in so many ways. First, even an idiot should know that if you want to do stuff like that, and you don't want to be caught, you don't do it on the same damn account that you do your business on. Jeez, all he had to do was create a different identity using a different email address. Duh. That's like internet101. It's not like it takes a lot of effort. Heck, half the internet is people using different screen names for different purposes. You don't want people to know about your cyber-philandering? At least make it so they have to actually hack your computer, don't hand them your career on a silver platter by making it so you could accidentally post something incriminating on your own account. Jeez.

As for whether or not his district would re-elect him, I'm not so sure. You're right, I don't think they would vote for any Republican, but they might vote for another Democrat that would challenge Weiner in a primary. Of course, the Democratic leadership is so ticked off with Weiner for lying to them, and making them look foolish for defending him, they may let his district be one of the two that gets eliminated this year through redistricting.

I think that not voting---or

Barth — Sun, 12 Jun 2011 02:38:00 +0000

In reply to No, I didn't say that, so

I think that not voting---or leaving the vote blank---does nothing useful. If you don't like the opponent, your failure to vote is good for him (or her) so you have taken a position even without meaning to.

There is, in any event, little question that Congr Weiner would be re-elected in his district, which I know fairly well. The voters in 2012 will have a choice between someone who clearly did not have his head screwed on right (and who fits the description of jackass as set forth above) or to vote for a Republican. It is hard to imagine that district electing a Republican and if the greatest person on earth ran as one, it would be hard to vote for him or her anyhow since a Reoublican would vote to organize the House under Republican leadership and a Speaker Boehner.

Congr Weiner needs help to be sure and his voice will be gone for some time, which may be good or may be too bad. And he has truly let us all down, big time. But we'll survive him. Not so much these other clowns.

No, I didn't say that, so

MrSmith1 — Sat, 11 Jun 2011 23:03:00 +0000

In reply to I am gathering that you

No, I didn't say that, so your gathering is inprecise. They're different. And, I thought Charlie Rangel should have resigned as well. For the first time since I lived in his district, I did not vote for him in the last election cycle. I couldn't vote for his opponent, so I just left that column blank as a protest.

I am gathering that you

Barth — Sat, 11 Jun 2011 22:24:46 +0000

In reply to I live in Cong. Rangel's

I am gathering that you consider Congr Weiner's offense to be more significant that Congr Rangel's. A lot more.

Reasonable people, I can say with assurance, would disagree quite strongly.