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LOL. Your closest Black

rmrd0000 — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:07:14 +0000

In reply to Thank you for the black

LOL.

Your closest Black friends

LOL

Thanks for providing some much needed humor

Thank you for the black

Desider — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:01:51 +0000

In reply to If you can't figure out why

Thank you for the black empathy litmus test. I'll look it over with some of my closest black friends™ and see how I score.

If you can't figure out why

rmrd0000 — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:50:29 +0000

In reply to Vote Yes or No

If you can't figure out why African-Americans might hate Republicans in higher numbers than they are disappointed by the Democrats, You may not be able to relate to the Black experience.

If you think Skip Gates was way out of line, You may not be able to relate to the Black experience.

If you are not enraged by the Republican attempts to suppress the Black vote, You may note be able to relate to the Black experience.

If you think that Obama having to show his citizenship papers was not an affront, You may not be able to relate to the Black experience.

If you think that the South left the Union for State's rights issues, You may not be able to relate to the Black experience.

If you think that the voter suppression and the Obama birth certificate, etc are overblown, You may be a Black Republican :)

"You are remarkably tone deaf

Desider — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:43:17 +0000

In reply to Once again you degenerate

"You are remarkably tone deaf (If I were Black..........)"

So MLK is allowed to dream and wonder, white people are just to take a dull statist view of reality and leave any pondering of how others might feel to them.

That's certainly a more profane concept than a little curse word, and it makes you awfully shallow. The world is a better place for people figuring out the needs and worries of others and figuring out what was shared and what differences remained.

Otherwise you end up with quaint colonial attitudes like "Asians don't need western-style democracty, they need a strong arm".

Once again you degenerate

rmrd0000 — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:49:40 +0000

In reply to I gave you facts and figures.

Once again you degenerate into profanity. I don't think that voting against a wretched Party like the GOP is a bad thing. You somhow feel that this beneath you. It is likely that if you vote, you will come to the same conclusion. You will simply be too arrogant to admit what you are doing.

I do not think that you can relate to the Black experience. If anyone is the Martian here, it is you. You are remarkably tone deaf (If I were Black..........)

Other than Black Agenda

rmrd0000 — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:43:48 +0000

In reply to You have given me your

Other than Black Agenda Report and Black Republican websites, do you see large pockets of African-American voters sharing your viewpoint in 2012 if community activists become engaged as they were in several states in the 2010 midterms?

I gave you facts and figures.

Desider — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:41:36 +0000

In reply to You have given me your

I gave you facts and figures. You gave me opinion.

I'm wallowing in bland missives of self-righteousness.

But yes, you did actually answer one question - to you, "We suck less than the GOP" is good enough for a 2nd campaign, despite historic losses in 2010. Go get 'em, tiger.

I don't care whether you use the term "whitey" or whatever - I care whether you say stupid shit like "You simply cannot relate to the Black experience" or "You simply cannot comprehend the mood of the African-American voter."

Are Black people Martians with 3 lungs and reversed cerebrums? All these years I've been talking with Black people and they were speaking Urdu and I was speaking Tagalog, but we didn't notice or they were too polite to say? Too bizarre.

You have given me your

rmrd0000 — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:31:52 +0000

In reply to You wouldn't acknowledge

You have given me your opinion. I gave you the Black Netroot panel with video, Ellis Cose's comments, links to Judy Lubin one of the Black Netroots panels who commented on an FDL post. In addition I gave you a links to an article supporting the role of community activiss in increasing African-American turnout in 2010.

You have given me some links to Obama criticism.

If you viewed the Black Netroots panel and read the Ballooon Juice commentor, you would realize that with a Republican Party that is actively working to suppress Black votes, "We Suck Less Than The GOP" is a powerful message. You cannot comprehend how ab=ngry the Black voter is about voter suppression and Obama having to produce his birth cetificate. The GOP brand is severely damaged in the Black community. A high priority is to get rid of those SOBs FIRST.

You simply cannot comprehend the mood of the African-American voter.

By the way, I don't use the term whitey, except for the octogenarian Boston Mafia murder and the old time Yankees pitcher.

You wouldn't acknowledge

Desider — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:14:41 +0000

In reply to You simply cannot relate to

You wouldn't acknowledge arrogance if you *could* hold onto that mirror. "You simply cannot relate to the Black experience". Jesus.

I didn't say "blacks have to want to stay home in 2012" - I said they should pressure Obama to get something black-friendly done. I've repeated this umpteen times.

I don't reject "getting out the vote" but it's hard to get out the vote with the same limp message that lost Dems big in 2010: "Vote Dem: we suck less than the GOP". Having a black candidate that's improving the lives of black people is a more attractive message than "come vote, it's a black candidate and the white GOP candidate will be worse".

Blacks will certainly make up their own minds. You think however that because you're black you can imagine the wishes of all black voters, that you have mental mind meld that whitey will never have. Lovely.

Regarding "sit on the sidelines in despair" I never told you what I would do, did I? I didn't toss my hat in the ring, nor did I say I wouldn't support a primary candidate against Obama, I didn't say whether I'd push to get a better Democratic platform despite Obama's wishes, I didn't say whether I'd support a Republican or 3rd party candidate, I didn't say whatever. I simply said, "pressure Obama now so we have a message in Nov 2012". So knock it off, Mr. Brain Reader.

16% black unemployment. Up to 32% black male unemployment in some cities. When will you address some economic issues? Since you know the minds of all black people, please tell me if they stopped caring about a paycheck to take home?

You simply cannot relate to

rmrd0000 — Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:59:08 +0000

In reply to Yes, you're confused.Of

You simply cannot relate to the Black experience. Many Blacks have a much different view of where things stand than you. Blacks think there is a light at the end of the tunnel. You see the light as the headlights of a locomotive.

You have the arrogance to tell Blacks how they should feel about a given issue, but you are unable to connect with how Blacks actually feel.

You feel that Blacks simply have to want t stay home in 2012, so you reject data that says how community organizers impacted African-American turnout in 2010.

You feel that Blacks need to have more Black legislators elected at all levels, but when people talk about getting out the vote you alternately reject then support it. It's OK as long as Obama doesn't benefit.

You are so biased against Obama that you can't recognize how jumbled you thought process has become.

It's not about You. Black voters will make up their own minds, while you sit on the sidelines in despair.

No are not qualified to speak on the Black experiece or tell tell Black people how they should feel. They simply don't care about You.