dagblog - Comments for "The Morphing of The American Right. From Burke and Buckley to Baptists and Falwell" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/morphing-amercan-right-burke-and-buckley-baptists-and-falwell-10989 Comments for "The Morphing of The American Right. From Burke and Buckley to Baptists and Falwell" en I keep hearing that we're http://dagblog.com/comment/127323#comment-127323 <a id="comment-127323"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/127308#comment-127308">Ramona, civil rights and</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I keep hearing that we're trying to go back to the glory days.  It's not a matter of going back and reliving them again.  It has nothing to do with nostalgia and everything to do with what it takes to build a healthy economy.  We thrive best when the majority are working at  jobs that can actually sustain them and allow them to participate.  We grow a healthy economy by recognizing that sharing the wealth is more than just altruism.</p> <p>There are no perfect answers, no perfect heroes, and I'm not so awash in nostalgia that I pick and choose what I want to remember about the so-called glory days.  Bad things happened but it's sometimes necessary to be reminded of what <em>did</em> work.   </p> <p>We came out of a miserable depression, fought a deadly, costly war, and still managed to build a healthy economy where the working class could actually afford to live in a manner that was as close to rich as they were ever going to get. </p> <p>That's gone now, and if we tend to look back with many sighs, trying to remind a new generation of what can be accomplished with a lot of hard work, all I can say is it can't hurt.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:09:36 +0000 Ramona comment 127323 at http://dagblog.com Ramona, civil rights and http://dagblog.com/comment/127308#comment-127308 <a id="comment-127308"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/127277#comment-127277">Interesting thoughts on</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Ramona, civil rights and racial tolerance were not always core elements of the Democrats' platform--certainly not in the 19th century but not even in the first half of the 20th. Many of the old unions excluded blacks. Woodrow Wilson segregated the federal government. FDR interned Japanese citizens. Civil rights and racial tolerance didn't become Democratic priorities until after World War II, at which point the great Southern realignment began.</p> <p>And speaking of religious orthodoxy, one of most progressive anti-corporate Democratic presidential candidates was Williams Jennings Bryan of Scopes monkey trial fame.</p> <p>As for change, I would say that today's right wing has far more aggressive plans than liberals, who are mostly trying to hang onto the status quo--or else trying crawl back a couple of decades to liberalism's glory days.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 08 Jul 2011 14:45:59 +0000 Michael Wolraich comment 127308 at http://dagblog.com Democrats love wage http://dagblog.com/comment/127287#comment-127287 <a id="comment-127287"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/127283#comment-127283">The South was Democrat (well</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Democrats love wage slaves.</p> <p>These same wage slave owner democrats, want to give amnesty to a million more wage slaves, in order to force wages and benefits down.</p> <p>The Republicans fought slavery back then; the democrats were all for it.</p> <p>FDR the democrat used Socialism to get American Capitalism back on it's feet</p> <p>What makes people think the democrats want to return to FDR's plans or methods to save America?</p> <p>Democrats love slavery. Wage slaves to support the government who'll relieve the plantation owners of their responsibilities.</p> <p>The government will give you healthcare, the government will give you a place to live, the government will feed you through the food stamp program. The government will do all these things as long as the wage slaves pay their taxes.</p> <p>The slaves are now responsible for their own upkeep.</p> <p>You plantation owners should be grateful for the new Democrats. You plantation owners no longer have to worry about what the middle class wage slaves demand, the government will just open the border and allow 20 million more wage slaves under an Amnesty program,  to under cut the uppity middle class.</p> <p>WTF you slaves. because the Obama administration has no plans to deliver you.</p> <p>Can you slaves say Uncle?</p> <p>Lincoln made it illegal to own Black slaves, the democrats figured a way to enslave everyone else.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 08 Jul 2011 04:25:14 +0000 Resistance comment 127287 at http://dagblog.com The South was Democrat (well http://dagblog.com/comment/127283#comment-127283 <a id="comment-127283"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/127277#comment-127277">Interesting thoughts on</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The South was Democrat (well Dixicrat) because they blamed the republicans for the Civil War and more importantly reconstruction. Which was an abysmal failure.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 08 Jul 2011 03:31:09 +0000 cmaukonen comment 127283 at http://dagblog.com Interesting thoughts on http://dagblog.com/comment/127277#comment-127277 <a id="comment-127277"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/morphing-amercan-right-burke-and-buckley-baptists-and-falwell-10989">The Morphing of The American Right. From Burke and Buckley to Baptists and Falwell</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Interesting thoughts on fundamentalism and orthodoxy.  Both are equally destructive, I think, in their need for rigidity and intolerance.  Change is to be feared, a concept fully in line with Conservatives, and probably the reason we're always going to butt heads.</p> <p>I never understood why the South followed the Democratic Party <em>ever.  </em>There is nothing in the Dem's platform that would ever have appealed to the South.  Labor Reform?  Hah!  Civil Rights?  Hah!  Justice?  Hah!  Tolerance?  Double Hah!</p> <p>But I am surprised and dismayed at the numbers of Christian fundamentalists now holding positions of power.  They would like us to believe that they're the majority, but I don't buy it. </p> <p>Still, they're somehow pushing enough buttons to get the results they want, and I still haven't seen an explanation for that.  I just don't get it.  There's a psychology there that's beyond me, I admit.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 08 Jul 2011 02:43:27 +0000 Ramona comment 127277 at http://dagblog.com