dagblog - Comments for "Revenge of the Bankers! and Other Tales from Under the Debt Ceiling"

I cherish those rare

Watt Childress — Sat, 16 Jul 2011 19:13:14 +0000

In reply to Thanks, Watt. The creeping

I cherish those rare occasions when conservatives challenge corporate interests. In my dreams such teachable moments offer opportunities for left-right coalitions to counter the corporate leaders of both major political parties.

Michelle Bachmann bothers me, probably as much as she bothers anyone who blogs here. But here's a confession. When I watch Darth O'Reilly try to choke Bachmann for refusing to raise the debt ceiling, a small part of me smiles at her the same way I smiled at the Ewoks in Star Wars.

"You don't make arguments,

smithers_T — Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:43:09 +0000

In reply to You don't make arguments, you

"You don't make arguments, you make assertions. When challenged, you demean, obfuscate and appeal to the moderators for help. I guess that proves you're not a Libertarian." --Donal

Asserted what? Obfuscated what? Demeaned who? Appealed to which moderator when?

Not Libertarian? Correct... nor Socialist, Democrat or Republican.

Ideas can be too easily co-opted /filtered /obfuscated and Yes, asserted-without-argument-or-premise by people who tightly adhere to groups. But if you're trying to project that onto me, it's not going to work.

By the way assertion can be the basis in argument (starting point from which to reason), though formally it would be called a premise.

You don't make arguments, you

Donal — Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:18:24 +0000

In reply to "For the record, you haven't

You don't make arguments, you make assertions. When challenged, you demean, obfuscate and appeal to the moderators for help. I guess that proves you're not a Libertarian.

Why might one say that? And,

smithers_T — Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:00:54 +0000

In reply to Meet John Frederickson, who

Why might one say that? And, do you literally mean the outcome of original sin is "the bankers", or do you mean banking (the verb)... and perhaps more specifically banking that isn't transparent enough to muster public scrutiny (sufficient to assure that people's labors aren't being squandered)?

T. Smithers

"For the record, you haven't

smithers_T — Sat, 16 Jul 2011 17:41:20 +0000

In reply to For the record, you haven't

"For the record, you haven't made much sense about anything." --Donal

Perfect example of an idea with no originality... like the one above that jumps in for a quick demeaning response, and then nothing else to actually discuss the topic.

Would you care to actually address a point relevant to the topic? If not, what's the idea? What's the point?

There's a word for this. It's called trolling. In my experience (and from what I've read about it) this happens mainly due to:

a) incompetence (can't defeat an argument)

b) to be a nuisance (from boredom or just to demean or make people upset)

Meet John Frederickson, who

Elusive Trope — Sat, 16 Jul 2011 16:46:33 +0000

In reply to Usually when someone says

Meet John Frederickson, who is a senior litigator who handles all types of complex commercial, banking, administrative and business matters at the firm O'Malley, Miles, Nylen, & Gilmore, P.A.

And he is definitely not Adam.

Although one might say Frederickson (and the bankers) is the outcome of that singular act of naughtiness committed by Adam

For the record, you haven't

Donal — Sat, 16 Jul 2011 16:23:11 +0000

In reply to Speaking of planks, I don't

For the record, you haven't made much sense about anything.

Speaking of planks, I don't

smithers_T — Sat, 16 Jul 2011 16:16:13 +0000

In reply to Look to the plank in your own

Speaking of planks, I don't acquire foundational ideas from a single political platform... as though that would somehow make the ideas right or true...? For the record, I've called no person elitist nor have I judged anyone. As to your other thought, everyone is useful (in the sense of being vital /important) even while some of their ideas may lack originality or usefulness. T. Smithers

It's interesting to note that

smithers_T — Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:39:13 +0000

In reply to I realize that elitists all

It's interesting to note that Genghis does not defend the racist nature of the comment. In fact, it's a pejorative assigning race to an accusation. And, it can't be defended.

It's a weak attempt to use the issue of race to incite ill feelings on the basis of an indefensible racial prejudice. Whether it meets the requirements of blog policy or not (and I'm not convinced it does because the comment has only been pejoratively used, never used in pursuit of examination of the topic and most blog policies penalize that) it does nothing to address an idea that can be legitimately discussed.

You're confusing

smithers_T — Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:13:39 +0000

In reply to t smithers memory must be

You're confusing 'conservative' with 'not liberal', there's a huge difference. You know, it's incorrigible to continually troll online users, label them, call them ridiculous, etc., especially, when you have no proof of accusations made. I'm learning to expect no more than that from certain people. It's obvious that some folks are like Ross Perot, constantly squeaking and whining of others (one-liners), but extremely short on reasoning or ideas of their own.