dagblog - Comments for "Gang of Six Plan-Hits Hard on Middle Class and Poor, Easy on Rich" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/gang-six-plan-hits-hard-middle-class-and-poor-easy-rich-11117 Comments for "Gang of Six Plan-Hits Hard on Middle Class and Poor, Easy on Rich" en Thanks NCD. My stomach churns http://dagblog.com/comment/128772#comment-128772 <a id="comment-128772"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/gang-six-plan-hits-hard-middle-class-and-poor-easy-rich-11117">Gang of Six Plan-Hits Hard on Middle Class and Poor, Easy on Rich</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Thanks NCD. My stomach churns when I think about the debt limit deals being cultivated by the Senate and White House.</p> <p>I was asked by a commenter over at FDL how I felt about the "Cut, Cap, and Balance" bill passed in the House. My impulse, from the beginning, was to see that proposal as worse than anything under consideration in in the Senate/White House. Yet when I read the bill, I'm not sure sure. Looks to me like it specifically exempts Social Security and Medicare from required cuts to the budget. And if I read it right, it does not include an equivalent exemption for war spending.</p> <p>I'm sharing it here, in hopes you and/or other dagbloggers will help me vet the thing.</p> <p><a href="http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr2560eh/pdf/BILLS-112hr2560eh.pdf">http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr2560eh/pdf/BILLS-112hr2560eh.pdf</a></p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 22 Jul 2011 04:58:17 +0000 Watt Childress comment 128772 at http://dagblog.com My feeling is that if we fail http://dagblog.com/comment/128700#comment-128700 <a id="comment-128700"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/128687#comment-128687">I have a serious question for</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>My feeling is that if we fail to raise the debt ceiling, measures will be taken to extend the date. If we adopt the Gang of Six plan, the rich win again.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:53:45 +0000 Donal comment 128700 at http://dagblog.com I'm not surprised that it http://dagblog.com/comment/128694#comment-128694 <a id="comment-128694"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/128688#comment-128688">completely o/t, but I&#039;ve been</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I'm not surprised that it exists, given the navigation abilities of animals as simple as monarch butterflies, but it's still pretty neat that we (probably) have discovered such a gene. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:27:56 +0000 Verified Atheist comment 128694 at http://dagblog.com completely o/t, but I've been http://dagblog.com/comment/128688#comment-128688 <a id="comment-128688"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/128680#comment-128680">Actually, I think jr was</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>completely o/t, but I've been laying in wait for Verified A ever since I saw <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/28/science/28magnet.html">this article</a> about magnetic lines as visual cues for humans...</p> <p>We have an ongoing issue anent the magnet thingee</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 21 Jul 2011 05:16:46 +0000 jollyroger comment 128688 at http://dagblog.com I have a serious question for http://dagblog.com/comment/128687#comment-128687 <a id="comment-128687"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/gang-six-plan-hits-hard-middle-class-and-poor-easy-rich-11117">Gang of Six Plan-Hits Hard on Middle Class and Poor, Easy on Rich</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I have a serious question for anyone who wants to answer.  I just finished reading Bernie Sanders' piece over at Huffpo.  His assessment of the Gang of Six plan is harsh, too.  My question:  Would it be worse if the Gang of Six plan were adopted or if the US fails to raise the debt ceiling?  As a follow up question, what does August 3rd and beyond look like to the average American?  Paint us a picture.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 21 Jul 2011 05:16:17 +0000 kyle flynn comment 128687 at http://dagblog.com We slack and they stack, http://dagblog.com/comment/128681#comment-128681 <a id="comment-128681"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/128680#comment-128680">Actually, I think jr was</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>We slack and they stack, makes sense!</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 21 Jul 2011 02:11:01 +0000 NCD comment 128681 at http://dagblog.com Actually, I think jr was http://dagblog.com/comment/128680#comment-128680 <a id="comment-128680"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/128675#comment-128675">It&#039;s Amazon&#039;s typo, check the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Actually, I think jr was referring to stackers vs. slackers and might not have noticed Owen's ship.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 21 Jul 2011 01:09:45 +0000 Verified Atheist comment 128680 at http://dagblog.com It's Amazon's typo, check the http://dagblog.com/comment/128675#comment-128675 <a id="comment-128675"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/128674#comment-128674">I fear you have been</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>It's Amazon's typo, check the link, it's an appropriate change to the book title by some unknown Amazon employee. The well known Wall Street author wrote the book in praise of Bush economic policy, in 2004.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:57:24 +0000 NCD comment 128675 at http://dagblog.com I fear you have been http://dagblog.com/comment/128674#comment-128674 <a id="comment-128674"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/128634#comment-128634">The slackers are members of</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I fear you have been victimized by a typo.</p> <p>The "owners" (aka ruling class, aka "Kapital") of whom you speak are frequently to be observed piling up their loot, murmuring under their breath the incantation first enunciated by that profound societal observer Damon Wayans:  "Mo' money, mo' money".</p> <p>Thus "s<strong>t</strong>ackers".</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:32:51 +0000 jollyroger comment 128674 at http://dagblog.com Dean Baker at CEPR: "The http://dagblog.com/comment/128668#comment-128668 <a id="comment-128668"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/128652#comment-128652">WHAT?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Dean Baker at <a href="http://www.cepr.net/index.php/press-releases/press-releases/statement-on-the-gang-of-six-plan">CEPR</a>:</p> <p> </p> <blockquote> <p>"The budget plan produced by the<strong> Senate’s “Gang of Six” offers the<br /> promise of huge tax breaks for some of the wealthiest people in the<br /> country, while lowering Social Security benefits for retirees and the<br /> disabled. </strong> Despite claiming that they will "reform" Social Security on a<br /> "separate track, isolated from deficit reduction," the plan includes<br /> cuts to Social Security that would be felt in less than six months, as<br /> the plan calls for a new inflation formula that will reduce benefits by<br /> 0.3 percentage points a year compared with currently scheduled benefits.<br /> The plan also calls for a process that is likely to reduce benefits<br /> further for future retirees.......It is striking that the Gang of Six chose to respond to the crisis created by the collapse of the housing bubble by developing a plan that will give even more money to top Wall Street executives and traders."</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:36:04 +0000 NCD comment 128668 at http://dagblog.com