dagblog - Comments for "Which Is Better: Hybrid or Fuel-Efficient Conventional?" http://dagblog.com/link/which-better-hybrid-or-fuel-efficient-conventional-11118 Comments for "Which Is Better: Hybrid or Fuel-Efficient Conventional?" en Man, that's almost a camper. http://dagblog.com/comment/128673#comment-128673 <a id="comment-128673"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/128672#comment-128672">Those bikes can move stuff. A</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Man, that's almost a camper.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:08:18 +0000 Donal comment 128673 at http://dagblog.com Those bikes can move stuff. A http://dagblog.com/comment/128672#comment-128672 <a id="comment-128672"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/128632#comment-128632">Industrial Bikes I&#039;ve flirted</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Those bikes can move stuff. A bit clunky though.</p> <p>I saw a version of this the other day: <a href="http://www.burley.com/home/bur/page_453/flatbed.html">http://www.burley.com/home/bur/page_453/flatbed.html</a></p> <p>It would be nice if the thing had a dedicated brake. What with inertia and all.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 20 Jul 2011 22:51:57 +0000 moat comment 128672 at http://dagblog.com Industrial Bikes I've flirted http://dagblog.com/comment/128632#comment-128632 <a id="comment-128632"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/128592#comment-128592">True enough; You don&#039;t see a</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="http://www.industrialbicycles.com/">Industrial Bikes</a> I've flirted with the idea of getting a trike or a four wheeler designed for carrying loads:</p> <p><img alt="" src="http://www.industrialbicycles.com/Surrey/Husky%20T-124C%20Trike.jpg" style="height: 201px; width: 300px;" /></p> <p><img alt="" src="http://www.industrialbicycles.com/images/WTC%204x4.jpg" style="height: 157px; width: 300px;" /></p> <p><a href="http://www.wicycle.com/">Wike Trailers</a></p> </div></div></div> Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:56:44 +0000 Donal comment 128632 at http://dagblog.com True enough; You don't see a http://dagblog.com/comment/128592#comment-128592 <a id="comment-128592"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/128591#comment-128591">They have some very good bike</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>True enough; You don't see a lot of skater propelled rickshaw action in Central Park.</p> <p>Might be a market for putting the motive force behind the load though....</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Wed, 20 Jul 2011 01:54:36 +0000 moat comment 128592 at http://dagblog.com They have some very good bike http://dagblog.com/comment/128591#comment-128591 <a id="comment-128591"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/128585#comment-128585">Ten grand is a chunk of</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>They have some very good bike trailers, though.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 20 Jul 2011 01:30:00 +0000 Donal comment 128591 at http://dagblog.com Ten grand is a chunk of http://dagblog.com/comment/128585#comment-128585 <a id="comment-128585"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/which-better-hybrid-or-fuel-efficient-conventional-11118">Which Is Better: Hybrid or Fuel-Efficient Conventional?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Ten grand is a chunk of change.</p> <p>I bought a Fit in 08 and we use it about once a week but living in NYC makes it easy to leave it home for most trips.</p> <p>Your comment about the limit on what a bicycle could move reminded me of the times I used a hand truck while wearing skates to move stuff. A bike can't touch that load limit without a trailer of some kind.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 20 Jul 2011 00:08:00 +0000 moat comment 128585 at http://dagblog.com I think the best advice she http://dagblog.com/comment/128579#comment-128579 <a id="comment-128579"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/128578#comment-128578">Several points I think are</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I think the best advice she got was to go with zipcar and rental cars and request hybrids.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:33:15 +0000 Donal comment 128579 at http://dagblog.com Several points I think are http://dagblog.com/comment/128578#comment-128578 <a id="comment-128578"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/which-better-hybrid-or-fuel-efficient-conventional-11118">Which Is Better: Hybrid or Fuel-Efficient Conventional?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Several points I think are worth making:</p> <p>(1) I note that the author says</p> <blockquote> <p>The fact of the matter, though, is that if I get a Prius, I wouldn't be taking advantage of its hybrid abilities all that much. My trips would be too long, and its electric capacity is really better suited for short trips or stop-and-go traffic.</p> </blockquote> <p>This is particularly interesting considering the "five car-free years". My first piece of advice would be to consider driving less. In general, driving only 10 miles in a car that gets 15mpg is better than driving 100 miles in a car that gets 50 mpg.</p> <p>(2) The author appears to be conflating what is best for the planet with what is best for her pocketbook, but if we look at the latter (as she does), then this problem:</p> <blockquote> <p>Because of the high demand for them, even a used Prius is still pretty expensive...</p> </blockquote> <p>Isn't really a problem, because those resale values also determine what you'll be able to sell your car for later (assuming you don't drive excessively and take good care of your car).</p> <p>In short, although I am the proud owner of a hybrid, owning a hybrid is a means, and not an end.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 19 Jul 2011 20:28:06 +0000 Verified Atheist comment 128578 at http://dagblog.com