dagblog - Comments for "Presidential Politics in the Wake of the Debt Ceiling Fiasco"

Money for nothing & the

jollyroger — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 23:13:22 +0000

In reply to At least we can all be

Money for nothing & the chicks for free? Sounds good to me...

At least we can all be

Elusive Trope — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 22:33:23 +0000

In reply to I, on the other hand, if

At least we can all be sultans of swing

I, on the other hand, if

jollyroger — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 22:25:08 +0000

In reply to well, i guess if i'm

I, on the other hand, if anything, am the sultan of style.

well, i guess if i'm

Elusive Trope — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 22:24:26 +0000

In reply to Sometimes the demands of

well, i guess if i'm anything, i'm the keeper of the nuance (at least in my mind's eye)

Sometimes the demands of

jollyroger — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 22:07:48 +0000

In reply to It was your first words of

Sometimes the demands of style trump nuance...

It was your first words of

Elusive Trope — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 21:52:03 +0000

In reply to Not at all--in fact, I

It was your first words of "paid cadre of assholes showing up..." upon this branch of the thread (can a thread have branches?) upon which I am focused upon from the get go, as if all those who showed up at the town halls did so because they were paid to do so.

Not at all--in fact, I

jollyroger — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 21:44:59 +0000

In reply to I was wondering how long it

Not at all--in fact, I believe you yourself reproached me when I referenced the "where's my bailout" plea as signalling nascent class consciousness in the tea party anger, albeit you pointed out the lack of the plural in the subject. I would not have referenced it if I thought it merely the invention of Dick Armey,

That said, there's nothing like a deep pocketed budget for paid staff to herd the volunteers around.

I was wondering how long it

Elusive Trope — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 21:38:27 +0000

In reply to Yeah, but only Americans for

I was wondering how long it was going to before the Koch syndrome was brought up. And Obama was only elected because of the liberal mainstream media. Forgive them lord, for they know not what they do.

It just seems that you're trying to avoid acknowledging that there is some genuine (no matter how misguided) public sentiment behind the tea party movement.

Yeah, but only Americans for

jollyroger — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 21:28:20 +0000

In reply to Well, actually both sides

Yeah, but only Americans for Prosperity have the Kochs opening up their spigot. Of course, the intent is genuine, the Kochs seek to prosper, and they are, I suppose, Americans. However, they number only two, and that's the total set of prosperers in contemplation.

McCarthy knocked out LBJ, but

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 21:14:53 +0000

In reply to Yes, a challenger can say

McCarthy knocked out LBJ, but he was knocked out by Kennedy and Humphrey. But still, he got the anti-war message on the platform.

Wallace didn't beat Truman, and Humphrey's move was more show than binding, but they got Civil Rights front and center and changed the party.

Tea Baggers probably have what 10-15% of the House, but they're defining the agenda. Why can't Democrats do that?

I don't care about taking the House and the Senate - I care about enacting policy that I like. If like the Teabaggers I can do that with a handful of lunatics, that's okay by me.

Look at Gordon Norquist - he takes a ridiculous, simple pledge and drives it to the bank. One guy. He doesn't care about Republicans, Democrats - he's a 1-trick pony, and that pony is all baubeled out at this point.