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A nit: he's not a newbie at

artappraiser — Tue, 16 Aug 2011 16:15:00 +0000

In reply to I have mixed feelings about

A nit: he's not a newbie at the NYT, he's been writing an analysis column in their Business section for years (since 2005, says the NYT site bio.)

Bslev: In case you missed it,

artappraiser — Tue, 16 Aug 2011 16:09:23 +0000

In reply to Vitriol

Bslev:

In case you missed it, slightly related: Josh Marshall's been pondering on vitriol again:

http://labs.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/post-1.php

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I read Nocera's original

acanuck — Mon, 15 Aug 2011 06:24:17 +0000

In reply to Vitriol

I read Nocera's original column, his "apology" column, and the public editor's column hailing his apology. Nocera had nothing to apologize for, and should not have done so. If you regret the tone of what you wrote, just change the tone of what you write in future; don't grovel. He said it was because he had earlier called for more civility, making his "terrorist" analogy hypocritical. Why not simply recant his call for civility, since it was obviously more off-base than his depiction of the Tea Party?

I have mixed feelings about

Ramona — Mon, 15 Aug 2011 01:48:55 +0000

In reply to Vitriol

I have mixed feelings about his decision. I would be great, wouldn't it, to never back down when you've written something you feel so strongly about? Especially if he's in the business of writing opinions. On the other hand, if he, in fact, recognized that he really doesn't want to be the hotshot he came off as, he did a brave thing by admitting it and changing his tone. He has to be true to himself if he's going to maintain an ongoing opinion column.

I would hate to think he felt threatened by anyone at the NYT, but that's likely, too.

As much as I dislike the Tea Party, I guess if I were writing for the NYT I would have to consider the source and cool it a little. It says something for Joe Nocera that he went with his gut and wrote what he felt, being such a newbie at the old Gray Lady. Good for him! And good for him for apologizing, if he really felt that, too I don't see anything cowardly in what he did. I think I really like the guy.

At the risk of painting with

Verified Atheist — Sun, 14 Aug 2011 17:06:42 +0000

In reply to Vitriol

At the risk of painting with a very broad brush, writers who are concerned with their lives and the lives of their loved try not to upset terrorists or their sympathizers. Here's hoping none of those terrorists will be able to figure out my real identity!