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I have to admit I was

Verified Atheist — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 13:57:57 +0000

In reply to Just wanted to note here a

I have to admit I was surprised to hear you describe Perry as sounding reasonable, but not having seen the clip, I'd just chalked it up to him applying some sort of veneer. Huntsman, however, is reasonable, at least by comparison.

Just wanted to note here a

wabby — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 13:44:10 +0000

In reply to Then there's that "Perry used

Just wanted to note here a few days after the fact that in my comment above I have proved myself to be full of sh*t. It wasn't Perry I saw interviewed. It was Huntsman.

Republicans all look alike to me.

I'm not gonna refute you

miguelitoh2o — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 03:16:28 +0000

In reply to Don't waste your time

I'm not gonna refute you flavius. I happen to think you're right. I also think the Dems will be able to spin the fact that Perry became a multimillionaire while holding public office in their favor. And I'm very familiar with Burrough's, so I won't bother googling mugwumps. ;)

Don't waste your time

Flavius — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 16:17:00 +0000

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Don't waste your time refuting me, just setting out my view because it happens not to have been stated already.

Obama will defeat Perry on personal rather than fundamental issues.

Swing voter concern about Perry's retrograde views on abortion, gays, evolution and global warming will combine with latent affection if not approval for Obama resurrected by a two-guns-blazing Perry campaign.

However frustrating Obama's mugwumpery (you can look it up) it's left him as a still conceivable choice on the other side of the fence.

A corollary of my view is that we can forget about hoping for emergence of a "fighting Barack" candidate during the next 14 months. It won't pass any legislation and merely peel off some of the wump siders.

Then there's that "Perry used

wabby — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 12:08:26 +0000

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Then there's that "Perry used to be a Democrat" thing. Seems to me that would appeal to voters who lean towards the center. A Republican who knows how to talk to Democrats.

Last week I caught an extended interview with Perry on PBS, if I recall the network correctly, and he sounded so damned reasonable. I found myself saying out loud, "Oh. Shit. There's gonna be some trouble with this guy."

If the election were held today, well, I don't know if people would exactly vote for Perry, but I would reckon they wouldn't mind voting against Obama simply because people vote their pocketbook....it's an old saying that has held its meaning. People more often know what they don't like better than what they do like and people don't like not having job opportunities.

I would argue that, based on

Verified Atheist — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 10:29:42 +0000

In reply to of course, the quote can also

I would argue that, based on my definition of the word "progress", that the quote cannot be applied to the tea party protesters. Most of them would probably agree, as what they're wanting is to return to the mythical good ol' times. That said, it's true that one could substitute the word "change" for "progress" in the quote and it would still be true. However, the point of the quote (to me, at least) isn't to embrace unreasonableness per se, but rather to point out its necessity as a means to an end. As an analogy, fire is necessary for modern civilization, but it can also be very destructive.

That said, I'm afraid that I'm personally every bit as "reasonable" as you are.

of course, the quote can also

Elusive Trope — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 09:43:49 +0000

In reply to You're being unreasonable,

of course, the quote can also be applied to all the tea party protesters. so is progress is something we should embrace unconditionally?

Against the kumbaya

Resistance — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 08:23:10 +0000

In reply to The Tea Party rejects the old

Against the kumbaya president, they'll win.

Can't we all just get along?

http://www.truth-out.org/goodbye-all-reflections-gop-operative-who-left-cult/1314907779

Shh! Don't let it get

Michael Wolraich — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 20:44:52 +0000

In reply to You're being unreasonable,

Shh! Don't let it get around.

PS Nice quote

The Tea Party rejects the old

NCD — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 20:19:17 +0000

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The Tea Party rejects the old Republican Party represented by Bush, the previous governor of Texas. The current governor of Texas is seen as a refreshing and bold break from the past! Ironic is it not!