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Yeah Barth and people forget

Richard Day — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:20:59 +0000

Yeah Barth and people forget that in those good ole days, two dems had to come onto the Senate Floor in Gurneys. Ha!

Well done, especially the

Barth — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:40:19 +0000

In reply to DEMOCRATS: QUIT F%^&ING AROUND! FIGHT PROPAGANDA WITH PROPAGANDA!

Well done, especially the Byrds. The next time one of our friends does that tut, tut about the President not doing what he could when he "controlled" the Senate, they should be required to consider that this supposed majority included Mary Landrieux, Ben Nelson, Joe Lieberman, Jon Tester, Max Baucus, Mark Warner, Bob Casey and Jim Webb and now includes Joe Manchin.

These are not New Deal Democrats, my friends, and though I am happy that they organize with us and put Senator Reid in charge of the Senate's agenda, you can't really count on any of them for anything.

America politics is a Punch

David Seaton — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:16:06 +0000

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America politics is a Punch and Judy show.... what is important to know, is whose hands are stuck up the puppet's bottoms

Oh David, us dems are good at

Richard Day — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:18:01 +0000

In reply to Dickster, Always remember

Oh David, us dems are good at fighting...

We just end up fighting each other more or less.

We are not very good at goosestepping in sync like the repubs.

How else could the top ten percent control the bottom 90 so well!

Dickster, Always remember

David Seaton — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:12:37 +0000

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Dickster,

Always remember how Gore Vidal described American politics: there is only one political party, "The Party of Property", with two right wings, the Democratic wing and the Republican wing. If you think the Democrats are really ever going to "fight", I have this bridge I'd like to sell you.

Watching he Republicans the

Resistance — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:16:16 +0000

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Watching he Republicans the other night, really got me fired up

I believe it was Cain (not the "I am not my bothers keeper, the bother murderer) mentioned about the need for tort reform and how it was a job killer.

I wish someone had asked Bachman, do you believe in tort reform?

"Do you think that if someone forces kids to have a vaccination and something happens the parents should not be allowed to sue?"

The republicans are such hypocrites.

They fight regulations intended to protect the people

They kill and maim the people, and then prevent lawsuits to punish the wrong doers.

To republicans; your newly acquired problem; is your Personal responsibility

YES, YES YES! You always get

Richard Day — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:48:17 +0000

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YES, YES YES!

You always get this message right Resistance. ha!

Personal responsibility is the key message.

#11....Scream that we must

Resistance — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:44:28 +0000

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#11....Scream that we must indict and go after the corporations who have killed so many folks and scream that we need to take away their assets for the damage they have done.

Scream from the roof tops we believe in PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

We will not accept that corporate shields; are an excuse to avoid PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

Well thanks KGB. I was afraid

Richard Day — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:29:03 +0000

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Well thanks KGB.

I was afraid nobody would read me again! hahahaha

Oh, and don't call me serious or surely. hahahahaahahaha

Hence you remain my favorite

kgb999 — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 07:24:16 +0000

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Hence you remain my favorite die-hard Democrat. Pure awesome ... hahahahaha.

There's actually a lot of good really stuff in here - and really effectively presented. If you are serious about not fucking around though, gotta give you one more.

15. Stop calling people fascist or Nazi unless they are literally self-identified fascists or Nazis. It produces a confluence of negative reactions that really won't help any cause worth helping. Take it from someone who lives in a place where a lot of republicans who believe all sorts of shit that really pisses you off (and me, but to a lesser degree) are important partners in the fight against the real McCoy.

Random other thoughts.

#2: Don't emphasize it, but don't undermine important science by accommodating nonsense either.

#9: I agree don't scream about it. But, do mention it from time to time while screaming about the vanishing middle class. Especially mention the income gap. With charts. Fuck Ross Perot ... the guy was a goddamn cadaver ... even the best charts in the world couldn't help him ... but generally charts are good. Use an image of a New Bentley for the rich-guy's marker and like a beat-down ' 87 Cougar for the rest of us.

#11: Agreed with the framing for how to approach the deficit (think I've pretty much been on it for this one). But realize, only 12% of the nation is polling the deficit as their primary concern right now. You really need to hammer the idea tax cuts are bullshit and investment in jobs yields increased revenue and decreased deficits. Folks are primed for that. One of the implications of The Fox guys' recent observation that 50% of the nation doesn't pay taxes right now after all the credits and stuff (demanded by republicans as "stimulus," BTW) is that people are increasingly not seeing the concept as directly beneficial to them. Obama's right to pivot to jobs ... not sure he's done so credibly, but it is a good bet for the mood of the nation. However there is a serious blood-lust that you allude to that should really be mined; focusing on supporting and highlighting the State Attorneys like Schneiderman, Beau Biden, etc. would be the way to go on that if you are thinking the Democratic brand in general vs. Obama in specific .... the national operation sure isn't going to start threatening big banks at this point.

The bit that should scare the bajezuz out of y'all from that report is the question of what party would do a better job of handling whichever problem they named as most important .. the dive is brutal. Honestly, with how truly clown-ass the republicans are ... that kind of surprised me. One really has to wonder how often the exclamation "Seriously?" was uttered before answering that question.

#14: Mostly people already accept politicians lie as a matter of course. I think screaming and hollering about the full-on corruption is a better bet. It's getting pretty blatant in a lot of state party operations right now in ways that increasingly seem to have plausible ties directly back to the national organizations. Ask the question over and over and over.

Way fun post. hahahaha.