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UPDATE

jollyroger — Wed, 23 Jul 2025 12:02:48 +0000

In reply to Israel--Too expensive to keep as a pet...not housebroken.

UPDATE Aid Groups Blame Israel’s Siege of Gaza for ‘Mass Starvation’ I was right the first time BOYCOTT. DIVEST. SANCTION.

Hi, yes, I think I saw it,

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 28 Jan 2014 07:22:19 +0000

In reply to Speaking of that discussion

Hi, yes, I think I saw it, looked up some details that I was skeptical about but seemed to confirm you were pretty right, then ran out of steam to comment - anyway, appreciated.

Speaking of that discussion

Lurker — Mon, 27 Jan 2014 22:19:03 +0000

In reply to Well gee, Bruce - I don't

Speaking of that discussion of the Jewish revolt, you and Aaron Carine never responded to my last post, which was added a few days later. Did you see it?

Yes, in a sense. He, "Jerry

Peter Schwartz — Mon, 27 Jan 2014 15:06:00 +0000

In reply to You mean Judah Magnes? He was

Yes, in a sense. He, "Jerry Haber," takes the name from Judah Magnes and for the reason you mention. An orthodox Jew, Israeli-American citizen (I think), professor at Maryland U, he has a very interesting perspective. His real name is there, too.

Just Google The Magnes Zionist and you'll find him. Then scroll through the postings. In a recent one, unless I misread, he seems to call into question whether Israelis are still strongly behind a two-state solution. Maybe I'm wrong. This one might be it.

http://www.jeremiahhaber.com/2013/09/reading-lustick-more-carefully.html

For example, they write, “one of the most compelling aspects of the two-state solution is that a solid majority of both Palestinians and Israelis alike have shown, in virtually every poll taken in the past twenty years and more, that they are in favor of peace based on two states.” It’s time to lay this claim to rest. For one thing, it ignores recent polling in which the Israelis have fairly conclusively rejected even the minimalist picture of a Palestinian state. Thus in July 2013 the Peace Index poll found that “the majority of Jewish respondents, to different extents, is not prepared to concede to the Palestinians on any of the four problems that stand at the heart of the conflict,” borders, Arab refugees, Jerusalem, and settlement evacuations . The data of the August 2013 poll strengthen the “previous finding that there is currently no sweeping support for the two-state solution and indicate that the Israeli public is not losing sleep over the basic premise of the negotiations that without two states a bi-national reality will emerge.” Close to 77% of the Jewish public oppose Israeli recognition in principle of the right of return, with a small number of Palestinians refugees being allowed to return and compensation being offered for others.” For another, when Palestinians think of two states, they think of a state that will look more or less like Israel, something that virtually no Israeli (or their supporters) wish.

You mean Judah Magnes? He was

Aaron Carine — Mon, 27 Jan 2014 14:33:27 +0000

In reply to Take a look at the Magnes

You mean Judah Magnes? He was one of the guys who advocated a binational state before 1948--the idea never had much support from either Arabs or Jews.

The poll I checked, which was less than a year old had 63 percent of Jewish Israelis(at least I presumed they were Jewish) supporting a two state solution. I guess attitudes could have shifted somewhat in the last six months.

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Resistance — Mon, 27 Jan 2014 14:10:39 +0000

In reply to Way out of bounds, beyond

Take a look at the Magnes

Peter Schwartz — Mon, 27 Jan 2014 13:37:28 +0000

In reply to I don't expect Palestinians

Take a look at the Magnes Zionist for some perspective.

It seems the Israeli public has been moving away from the two-state solution.

Practicing for a part in a

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:28:37 +0000

In reply to As to leaving you alone, I

Practicing for a part in a movie? Yeah, you can go away as well with no great loss - shame, a few years ago you seemed like you had something to say, now it seems like you just enjoy feeding your head & get in a superior put-down. Hasta.

no, it's there - search for

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:27:25 +0000

In reply to To be sure. I'm not seeing

no, it's there - search for "Romans" - I misspelled "yarmulka"

As to leaving you alone, I

ocean-kat — Mon, 27 Jan 2014 06:59:26 +0000

In reply to PP, having read your

As to leaving you alone, I propose we make it mutual. I think people of honor would recognize the equity of my counterproposal. Absent a rejection I will assume we shall walk separately. Of course, as a matter of honor, please do take the last word here if you wish.

fugetaboutit Bruce. My experience is people who make that request never intend to keep it. Then its whoops, and I forgot, or I meant to post this reply to someone else. For a person with honor like yourself it just means they get to attack you while you get to eat it in silence. In the end you'll realize you're just being played for a sucker and give it up.