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It is too late for a

Bruce Levine — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:58:52 +0000

In reply to I have often remarked that I

It is too late for a plebescite JR, and it's too early for one as well. And, as a matter of equity, most of the world wants two states or claims such.

I have often remarked that I

jollyroger — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 02:37:33 +0000

In reply to The "refugee" issue is the

I have often remarked that I will "return" to Israel (I left??) when my Palestinian cousins can.

Put differently, is it too late for the plebiscite? If so, why so.?

Ought we be heard to plead the necessity of making permanent the results of an ethnic cleansing as the rationale for continuing to elide the necessity of voting on partition before partitioning?

Real estate transactions, after all, sound in equity.

The "refugee" issue is the

Bruce Levine — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 02:10:58 +0000

In reply to Yeah, like I always used to

The "refugee" issue is the elephant in the room. That these people living in camps, even in Gaza and the West Bank, will not be entitled to settle as citizens in the new state that Abbas seeks at the United Nations (which pays for these refugees) is a reflection of how crazy this situation is. Millions of Palestinians living in refugee camps, and the establishment of an independent Palestinian state will not change their status? That's absolutely mind-boggling. I can join lots of folks in bashing Bibi for his intransigence (although admittedly I rarely do it here because there is too much pile on), but the undisputed truth of the matter is that Abbas is absolutely incapable of negotiating a settlement with the Israelis--because the goal of erasing what happened inside the Green Line 63 years ago cannot be overlooked by the PA leadership. It traps them, more so than Avigdor Lieberman traps Netanyahu.

Yeah, like I always used to

artappraiser — Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:32:51 +0000

In reply to Palestinian Refugees Will Not Be Citizens of a Palestinian State

Yeah, like I always used to argue on "MJ" threads, a realistic Palestinian state isn't going to solve very many geopolitical problems, or even Mideast problems, in the least. It will more likely be along the lines of how the "two state solution" worked out for Pakistan and India. Might be the moral thing to do, but it's not the holy grail that people make it out to be. Kinda reminds me of the Obama is the messiah thing, only a lot bigger.

Not expecting so much is a highly undervalued modus operandi in general.