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Unelectable Perry finally

Oxy Mora — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 23:30:51 +0000

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Unelectable Perry finally pivots to Populism, albeit probably not propitiously.

Perry knocks the Republican establishment, Wall St. greed and Vulture Capitalism---which destroys jobs instead of create jobs.

Dreamer, had to re-log.

Oxy Mora — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:10:08 +0000

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Dreamer, had to re-log.

Thanks for those references.

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:03:34 +0000

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Thanks for those references.

I think my main conclusion about Perry, at least this morning, is that he will continue to get the support of the hard core right wing simply because of what he portrays, not what he says. Polls in the coming week or two will be telling.

As for Christie he's simply a different animal from Perry even though he shows a similar stripe of pugnaciousness. But I think that is an innate North/South divide that will keep Perry supporters from moving to Christie.

Per Rich's article I think Perry is very vulnerable on the so called Texas miracle and job creation on which he has based his candidacy. I think Obama will dice it and slice it and it is insurance against a landslide towards Perry.

Also with some points

AmericanDreamer — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:01:31 +0000

In reply to Thanks, Artsy. There's a lot

Also with some points pertinent to this is Frank Rich's September 25 "In Praise of Extremism", in New York magazine, which I'll also link to in the news section:

http://nymag.com/news/frank-rich/bipartisanship-2011-10/

Nate Silver had this at NYT

AmericanDreamer — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:28:12 +0000

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Nate Silver had this at NYT yesterday, on Christie, Perry and Romney:

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/26/is-christie-the-anti-perry-or-the-anti-romney/

Are you going to elaborate on

Oxy Mora — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:28:38 +0000

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Are you going to elaborate on that?

Thanks, Artsy. There's a lot

Oxy Mora — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:27:31 +0000

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Thanks, Artsy. There's a lot of discussion about Christie. Bloomberg News was all over it today, inviting Christie to be a guest on their show during the New Hampshire debate.

I think there is a hard core tea bagger group which wants someone who will punch out Obama, speaking metaphorically. It's almost if they just don't care about the fact that Romney is running much stronger against Obama in the general election polls so far, they want their anger and hate expressed.

As for Christie, he has taken some moderate positions which the tea baggers won't like, so I don't know if he'll pull that much support away from Perry. On the other hand Christie has that "in your face" attitude that the tea baggers love, so a big plus for him.

Isn't it interesting that the Republican base wants the most offensive candidate they can find. It's all about lambasting Obama.

But to your point about people scrambling to find someone else, I think that's very true.

Ben & Jerry's next

jollyroger — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:26:13 +0000

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Ben & Jerry's next flavor-Phil Me Gaws

Seems to me, though, there's

artappraiser — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 03:53:19 +0000

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Seems to me, though, there's lots of evidence (see here for one example) that GOP politicos fear that won't continue, i.e., that the more GOP voters see of him, the less they will approve of him.

I haven't watched any of the debates, just catching stuff about them in my reading here and there. From that I get the sense that this isn't at all like early on in George Bush's run for the presidency. I remember "W" as really fucking up a lot early on, and there was a lot of attention given to those fuck-ups, but the people behind him didn't seem worried, it was like they were sure they could fix the problems. I don't see that here--there's no confidence in being able to "fix" him-- instead I see people scrambling to find someone else.

I got the backlit part. I

Oxy Mora — Tue, 27 Sep 2011 02:52:27 +0000

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I got the backlit part. I think. And Jerry, flannel. And Cherry Garcia. But I really don't get Schweddy Balls--I'm not sure if that just doesn't turn me off to the brand. How about a combination of Cherry Garcia, Flannel and Schweddy Balls. Against backlit gauze.