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Of course it won't "remain

Qnonymous — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 03:38:11 +0000

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Of course it won't "remain non-violent." There was violence from the civil rights movement, the anti-war movement, the environmental movement, you name it. There are always provocateurs, the mentally ill, the overly-stressed, and those who actually support violence. In addition, there is, in my view, nothing non-violent about Wall Street's horrific crimes... nor the way our governments have handed our money to the rich... nor the way they have busted down protest against this process which arose along the way (e.g. the antiglobalization stuff)... and nor will there be anything legal about the way they eventually force this to closure. Cops cracking skulls is just an extreme example. Which us a way of saying, YES, I agree with your point and also hope the OWS folks stick with non-violence, and keep the crazies back from the brink. But let's remember that the OTHER side is already engaged in violence, and perhaps ask when they, Wall Street and their associates, will begin to TRY non-violence.

Occupy Wall Street is

Donal — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 00:58:00 +0000

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Occupy Wall Street is planning another arm-linking action to resist being evicted from Zucotti tomorrow morning:

Occupy Wall Street is gaining momentum, with occupation actions now happening in cities across the world.

But last night Mayor Bloomberg and the NYPD notified Occupy Wall Street participants about plans to “clean the park”—the site of the Wall Street protests—tomorrow starting at 7am. "Cleaning" was used as a pretext to shut down “Bloombergville” a few months back, and to shut down peaceful occupations elsewhere.

Bloomberg says that the park will be open for public usage following the cleaning, but with a notable caveat: Occupy Wall Street participants must follow the “rules”.

NYPD Police Commissioner Ray Kelly has said that they will move in to clear us and we will not be allowed to take sleeping bags, tarps, personal items or gear back into the park.

This is it—this is their attempt to shut down #OWS for good.

I have to wonder whether resistance is the best tactic, or whether adapting and occupying in a different manner might be a better long term strategy. Per AM and others on Facebook, I read that OWSers are trying to scrub down the site to take away Bloomberg's rationale for the eviction. That sounds like better PR.

Best way to keep the police

Beetlejuice — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:53:41 +0000

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Best way to keep the police perplexed is to be as peaceful as possible ... it makes it harder for them to justify their actions if the people they engage are obeying their instructions and not arguing. It's those within the movement who are agitated and vent their frustration at the officers when they have their justification to act. So it's the responsibility of the movement to police themselves and single out those troublemakers. Without some level heads to monitor participant behavior the chances of a minor altercation escalating into a massive police action is inevitable. Think along the lines of a community watch and you'll get the picture ... like you see people involved in something in your neighborhood that's out of character and seems to be out of place kind of thing.