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Hmm to df and ad.

erica20 — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 04:41:22 +0000

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Hmm to df and ad. Interesting. I might call this race differently if it weren't for the ascendancy of the lucrescenti, the potential for big money donors to outdo themselves, and the ease of marketing to evangelicals.

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Richard Day — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 02:06:06 +0000

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As Gandhi said, ?I like your

Verified Atheist — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:10:43 +0000

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As Gandhi said, “I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.”

I can't hope to compete with

AmericanDreamer — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:53:14 +0000

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I can't hope to compete with a Koch-upation scenario, only offer an admittedly loose off-the-cuff intuitive read.

As a cultural morality play Romney could use the Mormon Question to take away some of the "feel good" vote that Obama got last time. In 2008 one way to show you were a good person, tolerant, not prejudiced, was to vote for Obama. If Romney's it this time he would give people who feel treated by the MSM and the broader culture as though they are bigots--a major resentment shared by much of the GOP's evangelical and fundamentalist base--and who hate Obama a chance to offer evidence that they're not, by voting for Romney.

My guess is that many people who are open to voting for a Mormon for President and aren't part of the bases of either party would love a Kennedy-type positive speech/message from Romney along lines of "this is a tolerant country" and we have an opportunity to remind the world of America at its best, etc. For the many who have trouble feeling good about Romney the person, enough might at least feel good about that message he could send and the evocation of lately pretty dormant American pride--in something, anything--it can lend itself to.

Romney adds to this an effort to try to turn the election into a referendum on the economy.

Where there seems to be a real and growing belief--or is it realization?--setting in with the public that we're not likely to see much improvement on jobs, and maybe on the economy generally, on current trajectory. If voters don't hear Obama having any better-sounding ideas on the economy and don't see huge differences between the candidates on economic policy that are meaningful to them, maybe they just vote to fire Obama figuring things probably couldn't get much worse under Romney and might get better. Nothing Obama has been saying or doing on the economy--so far-- seems to have left the public with the view that he has some cards he can still play and intends to play. Voters tend to hold their President much more accountable for a bad economy than their members of Congress, which is why the GOP is betting on obstructionism even though it drives their generic party-approval ratings down as well as Obama's.

One of the things Obama has going for him is that your average, or even below average, doorknob has more charisma than the Mittster. But the GOP excels at marketing to the point of being able to make almost anyone look presidential enough to enough voters.

I am increasingly open to re-enactment ads, PETA-approved, of dog-in-cage-on-car-roof-for-10 hours. Maybe the "it's un-American to be cruel to your dog" vote can overcome the "voting for a Mormon for President showcases American moral superiority to the world" vote.

Interesting take. Your

DF — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 18:07:00 +0000

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Interesting take. Your emphasis is on the elite. So, in one sense it's top-down versus bottom-up - who rules America?

Christianity is certainly inconvenient to modern American notions of capitalism. I was just re-reading the Sermon on the Mount the other night. I don't know why exactly, but I felt like I needed to be reminded that Jesus didn't really advocate (most) of what modern American Christians seem to demand of society and government. No question about it though, Jesus was a 99er.

David wants to spend his

jollyroger — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 06:28:54 +0000

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David wants to spend his money on high maintenance dancers...not that etc.

I know Koch-upation is a lame

erica20 — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:56:45 +0000

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I know Koch-upation is a lame joke, but someone had to make it, and I wanted to be first.

I did note that the Koch brothers are willing to sink $200M plus into this election. I strongly suspect they'd prefer to spend it on Mitt.

not that there's anything

jollyroger — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:09:40 +0000

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not that there's anything wrong etc. etc....

koch-upation I thought that

jollyroger — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:06:23 +0000

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koch-upation I thought that was cute name the girls in the corps de ballet at the NYCB used for paying the rent on their theatre-but spelled the other way...