dagblog - Comments for "UK military steps up plans for Iran attack amid fresh nuclear fears" http://dagblog.com/link/uk-military-steps-plans-iran-attack-amid-fresh-nuclear-fears-12082 Comments for "UK military steps up plans for Iran attack amid fresh nuclear fears" en Sometimes what seems like http://dagblog.com/comment/139532#comment-139532 <a id="comment-139532"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/139437#comment-139437">Didn&#039;t The Bard write a play</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Sometimes what seems like empty sabre-rattling is the sound of sabres being unsheathed and sharpened. I hope you are right, because attacking Iran would be an act of insanity, but I have zero confidence you are.</p> <p>The global economy is already teetering on the edge of recession/depression, and deep thinkers in some quarters imagine there is some compelling logic for adding a whole magnitude of uncertainty and instability to the mix. Insanity.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 03 Nov 2011 23:52:39 +0000 acanuck comment 139532 at http://dagblog.com Didn't The Bard write a play http://dagblog.com/comment/139437#comment-139437 <a id="comment-139437"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/uk-military-steps-plans-iran-attack-amid-fresh-nuclear-fears-12082">UK military steps up plans for Iran attack amid fresh nuclear fears</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Didn't <strong>The Bard </strong>write a play called <strong><em>Much Ado About Nothing</em></strong> ???</p> <p>Seems odd for this to be out in the public domain. If they were serious, they'd keep it under covers so as to surprise the Iranians and catch them unawares.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:20:13 +0000 Beetlejuice comment 139437 at http://dagblog.com Sometimes people make fake http://dagblog.com/comment/139434#comment-139434 <a id="comment-139434"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/139431#comment-139431">Here is a good article</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p>Sometimes people make fake attempts at suicide to cry out for help. Sometimes they fuck up and commit suicide.</p> </blockquote> <p>Interesting and apt analogy.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:04:37 +0000 Verified Atheist comment 139434 at http://dagblog.com Here is a good article http://dagblog.com/comment/139431#comment-139431 <a id="comment-139431"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/uk-military-steps-plans-iran-attack-amid-fresh-nuclear-fears-12082">UK military steps up plans for Iran attack amid fresh nuclear fears</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Here is a good article discussing the idea that threats to attack are just part of a strategy which intends both to put more pressure directly on Iran and also to bring on board more nations such as China and Russia in that effort. If that is the case then it is certainly somewhat less worrisome than if there actually is an intention to develop a case for war with Iran and then have that war. The last line is a good cautionary ending<br /> "A U.S. military strike on Iran would not mark the first time in history that a country had found itself marching to war without having really intended to do so.<br /><br />  Sometimes people make fake attempts at suicide to cry out for help. Sometimes they fuck up and commit suicide.<br /><br /> <a href="http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2011/11/02/you-say-you-wanna-bomb-iran-take-a-number-and-stand-in-line/">http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2011/11/02/you-say-you-wanna-bomb-iran-...</a></p> </div></div></div> Thu, 03 Nov 2011 16:48:33 +0000 A Guy Called LULU comment 139431 at http://dagblog.com A comment I made on this http://dagblog.com/comment/139383#comment-139383 <a id="comment-139383"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/uk-military-steps-plans-iran-attack-amid-fresh-nuclear-fears-12082">UK military steps up plans for Iran attack amid fresh nuclear fears</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>A comment I made on this subject in another blog.</p> <p><em>The whole point to a nuclear Iran – which I had pointed out on other blogs – is a check mate to Israel, the only nuclear capable country in the area.</em></p> <p><em>THIS is what the US and Israel DO NOT WANT. Iran has never really been a threat directly to Israel. But as a counter to any moves that Israel may take in the region, it is a threat.</em></p> <p><em>A nuclear Iran could put a stop to any further attacks on Gaza or Lebanon.</em></p> <p><em>Not to mention tying our hands in the area as well.</em></p> </div></div></div> Thu, 03 Nov 2011 04:26:56 +0000 cmaukonen comment 139383 at http://dagblog.com You left out: "Another source http://dagblog.com/comment/139379#comment-139379 <a id="comment-139379"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/139375#comment-139375">Thanks for the link. This</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>You left out:</p> <p>"Another source added there was "no acceleration towards military action by the US, but that could change"."</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 03 Nov 2011 04:07:24 +0000 Ethanator comment 139379 at http://dagblog.com Thanks for the link. This http://dagblog.com/comment/139375#comment-139375 <a id="comment-139375"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/uk-military-steps-plans-iran-attack-amid-fresh-nuclear-fears-12082">UK military steps up plans for Iran attack amid fresh nuclear fears</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Thanks for the link.</p> <p>This story began its current phase with a claim that the hawks in the Israeli government were bringing important members of the government around to their view that Iran should be attacked by Israel. This, of course, raises fear among some that Iran <u><em>will</em></u> be attacked but not necessarily by Israel. There is reason to speculate, even among outside observers, that if Israel says  jump, that the U.S. will say,"how high?"<br /> The following are quotes from the article that you linked to. I have altered the sequence but I don't think it alters anything of the intended story the article laid out. I might be wrong about that though so everyone should read the story and decide for themselves. There is more of interest than I have quoted. The bolding is mine.<br /><br /> "Washington has been <strong>warned by Israel</strong> against leaving any military action until it is too late. Western intelligence agencies say <strong>Israel will demand</strong> that the US act if it believes its own military cannot launch successful attacks to stall Iran's nuclear programme."<br /><br /> "They [Whitehall and defense officials] made clear that Barack Obama, has no wish to embark on a new and provocative military venture <strong>before next November's presidential election.</strong>"<br /><br /> "The US could do this on their own but they won't.  So we [England] need to anticipate being asked to contribute. <strong>We had thought this would wait until after the US election next year</strong>, but now we are not so sure."<br /><br /> "British officials say that if Washington presses ahead it will seek, and receive, UK military help for any mission, despite some deep reservations within the coalition government."</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:14:00 +0000 A Guy Called LULU comment 139375 at http://dagblog.com