dagblog - Comments for "ASPO Conference: Adapting to future scenarios" http://dagblog.com/technology/aspo-conference-adapting-future-scenarios-12128 Comments for "ASPO Conference: Adapting to future scenarios" en Seems like the energy http://dagblog.com/comment/140224#comment-140224 <a id="comment-140224"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/140112#comment-140112">Did you see Krugman&#039;s latest</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Seems like the energy industry debate is full of false dilemmas: fossil or nukes? wind or nukes? solar or fossil? —as if one must unreservedly embrace one or the other will destroy us. I prefer solar and wind—but done properly, not thrown up willy-nilly because there is government funding in them thar hills.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:59:36 +0000 Donal comment 140224 at http://dagblog.com Did you see Krugman's latest http://dagblog.com/comment/140112#comment-140112 <a id="comment-140112"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/technology/aspo-conference-adapting-future-scenarios-12128">ASPO Conference: Adapting to future scenarios</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Did you see Krugman's latest op-ed, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/07/opinion/krugman-here-comes-solar-energy.html?src=recg">"Here Comes the Sun"</a>?</p> <blockquote> <p>...But Solyndra’s failure was actually caused by technological success: the price of solar panels is dropping fast, and Solyndra couldn’t keep up with the competition. In fact, progress in solar panels has been so dramatic and sustained that, as a blog post at Scientific American <a href="http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2011/03/16/smaller-cheaper-faster-does-moores-law-apply-to-solar-cells/" title="Article about cost of solar.">put it</a>, “there’s now frequent talk of a ‘Moore’s law’ in solar energy,” with prices adjusted for inflation falling around 7 percent a year.</p> <p>This has already led to rapid growth in solar installations, but even more change may be just around the corner. If the downward trend continues — and if anything it seems to be accelerating — we’re just a few years from the point at which electricity from solar panels becomes cheaper than electricity generated by burning coal....</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Tue, 08 Nov 2011 03:50:19 +0000 artappraiser comment 140112 at http://dagblog.com Thanks, Donal. I really http://dagblog.com/comment/140073#comment-140073 <a id="comment-140073"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/technology/aspo-conference-adapting-future-scenarios-12128">ASPO Conference: Adapting to future scenarios</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><span style="font-size: 14px">Thanks, Donal. I really respect you for taking the time to attend and bring us a report. It has been ages since I attended a conference like this and reading the report I feel I did attend. Wish I had the<br /> "energy" to do so.  </span></p> </div></div></div> Mon, 07 Nov 2011 20:22:09 +0000 Oxy Mora comment 140073 at http://dagblog.com Another find on Energy http://dagblog.com/comment/140043#comment-140043 <a id="comment-140043"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/technology/aspo-conference-adapting-future-scenarios-12128">ASPO Conference: Adapting to future scenarios</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Another find on Energy Bulletin:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://transitionvoice.com/2011/11/occupy-main-street/">Occupy Main Street</a><br /><br /> I have made only one foray to the OWS nearest me: Occupy Seattle. Living on South Whidbey Island, where 25,000 people occupy a few scattered towns and much rural farmland and forests, the only possible 1%-ers own vacation estates. Protest there and we’d only be shouting down long driveways at the gardeners – who are our friends. We could occupy Wells Fargo (the only national bank with a tainted reputation) but they are just an outpost – and the tellers are our friends.<br /><br /> So I made 3 gallons of soup with local beans, local grains, local tomatoes, local carrots and local oregano and took it in a pot I bought at the local thrift store so I could leave it with the occupiers at Westlake Plaza on my way to a meeting in Seattle. At least I could fill bellies as my “sign” expressing my personal disgust with the banking system robbing us of our democracy and our scant wealth. All I found were police vans and cars – no tents and scattered people possibly shopping. The occupiers had been moved, but I didn’t know where. The soup went to the meeting and I went home at the end of the day knowing at least that cooking a soup filled with love and respect was an action of sorts.</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Mon, 07 Nov 2011 17:39:13 +0000 Donal comment 140043 at http://dagblog.com I just ran across this Dark http://dagblog.com/comment/140019#comment-140019 <a id="comment-140019"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/technology/aspo-conference-adapting-future-scenarios-12128">ASPO Conference: Adapting to future scenarios</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I just ran across this Dark Optimism article at Energy Bulletin, and it relates to the Occupy + Transition discussion I just witnessed:<br /><a href="http://www.darkoptimism.org/2011/11/05/occupytransition-or-this-halloween-i-dressed-as-the-economy-2/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to OccupyTransition, or ‘this Halloween I dressed as the economy’">OccupyTransition, or ‘this Halloween I dressed as the economy’</a></p> <blockquote> <p>Now, at first glance, all this confrontation might seem a world away from working diligently to improve the resilience of our local communities, but I believe that the links are strong, and I hope to see them grow even stronger. Let me explain why.</p> <p>Both Transition and Occupy are founded on a belief that the current economic system is leading us to a future that none of us desire and, although peak oil seems to be a new term to many of those at OccupyLondon, we also share a strong strand of concern over climate change.</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Mon, 07 Nov 2011 15:49:34 +0000 Donal comment 140019 at http://dagblog.com I feel like you and Donal http://dagblog.com/comment/140006#comment-140006 <a id="comment-140006"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/139991#comment-139991">So why are people going to</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I feel like you and Donal have been talking past each other recently (neither one understanding the other), and this comment isn't really helping. I've been trying to be better about not getting involved in others' disputes, but I really respect <em>both</em> of you, and it's been hurting me to see the way y'all keep missing each other's valid points.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 07 Nov 2011 13:56:05 +0000 Verified Atheist comment 140006 at http://dagblog.com Thanks. Not at all I have http://dagblog.com/comment/140001#comment-140001 <a id="comment-140001"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/technology/aspo-conference-adapting-future-scenarios-12128">ASPO Conference: Adapting to future scenarios</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Thanks.</p> <p>Not at all I have thought about. And after reading this still not something I will think about.But I'm interested in your dispatches from that front.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 07 Nov 2011 12:35:07 +0000 Flavius comment 140001 at http://dagblog.com So why are people going to http://dagblog.com/comment/139991#comment-139991 <a id="comment-139991"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/technology/aspo-conference-adapting-future-scenarios-12128">ASPO Conference: Adapting to future scenarios</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>So why are people going to conferences when the real change is happening in the streets?</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 07 Nov 2011 06:21:12 +0000 Elusive Trope comment 139991 at http://dagblog.com