dagblog - Comments for "A Simple Plea: Do Not Lay Hands Upon Our Children" http://dagblog.com/social-justice/simple-plea-do-not-lay-hands-upon-our-children-12177 Comments for "A Simple Plea: Do Not Lay Hands Upon Our Children" en Former Penn State President http://dagblog.com/comment/238739#comment-238739 <a id="comment-238739"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/social-justice/simple-plea-do-not-lay-hands-upon-our-children-12177">A Simple Plea: Do Not Lay Hands Upon Our Children</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/us/penn-state-graham-spanier-child-molestation-sentence.html?hp&amp;action=click&amp;pgtype=Homepage&amp;clickSource=story-heading&amp;module=second-column-region&amp;region=top-news&amp;WT.nav=top-news">Former Penn State President Gets Jail Time in Child Molestation Scandal</a></p> <p>NYTimes, June 2, 2017</p> <blockquote> <p>HARRISBURG, Pa. — A judge on Friday sentenced three former <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/p/pennsylvania_state_university/index.html?inline=nyt-org" title="More articles about Pennsylvania State University">Pennsylvania State University</a> officials, including a former president, to short jail terms followed by home confinement for their roles in the child molestation scandal that rocked the university.</p> <p>In March, a jury <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/24/us/graham-panier-jerry-sandusky-penn-state.html?_r=0">found Graham B. Spanier,</a> the former president, guilty of one misdemeanor count of endangering the welfare of a child, and not guilty of two other charges. His lawyers have said he will appeal the conviction, and they argued for a sentence of probation rather than jail time.</p> <p>The officials were charged for failing to go to law enforcement after being told in 2001 that a former assistant football coach, <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/jerry_sandusky/index.html?inline=nyt-per" title="More articles about Jerry Sandusky.">Jerry Sandusky</a>, had been seen molesting a boy in a locker room shower. The officials denied that they were told at the time that the episode in the shower was overtly sexual.</p> <p>Mr. Sandusky went on to assault several other minors, and in 2012, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/23/sports/ncaafootball/jerry-sandusky-convicted-of-sexually-abusing-boys.html">he was convicted</a> of 45 counts of sexual abuse. He was sentenced to 30 to 60 years in prison.</p> <p>It is very rare for prosecutors to try to hold university leaders criminally liable for the misconduct of others, and the case is all the more remarkable for involving one of the nation’s most prominent universities, and one of its most vaunted football programs.</p> <p>It has been a stunning downfall for Mr. Spanier, 68, who had spoken publicly about his own history of being abused as a child by his father, who beat him severely. He served for 16 years as president of Penn State, until he was forced out in 2011 [....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Sun, 04 Jun 2017 01:39:35 +0000 artappraiser comment 238739 at http://dagblog.com I was at Scarborough College http://dagblog.com/comment/174360#comment-174360 <a id="comment-174360"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/140508#comment-140508">Interesting, isn&#039;t it, that</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> I was at Scarborough College when Richard Wilkinson was Headmaster, he was in my opinion a man for whom I have the very greatest respect, he provided the type of moral compass that is greatly lacking today. You will not hear a voice raised against this fine gentleman by nearly all educated under him. We need more men of the caliber of Richard Wilkinson and his deputy John Alderson. Andrew Harrison</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 04 Feb 2013 23:00:07 +0000 Anonymous comment 174360 at http://dagblog.com In light of Judge Adams http://dagblog.com/comment/140809#comment-140809 <a id="comment-140809"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/social-justice/simple-plea-do-not-lay-hands-upon-our-children-12177">A Simple Plea: Do Not Lay Hands Upon Our Children</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><br /> In light of Judge Adams video,<br /><br /> We often hear from those who fight to uphold this practice for those under the age of 18 (even to the blaming of the social maladies of the day on a supposed "lack" of it), but we rarely, if ever, find advocates for the return of corporal punishment to the general adult community, college campuses, inmate population, or military. Why is that?<br /><br /> Ask ten unyielding proponents of child/adolescent/teenage-only "spanking" about the "right" way to do it, and what would be abusive, indecent, or obscene, and you will get ten different answers.<br /><br /> These proponents should consider making their own video-recording of the "right way" to do it.<br /><br /> Visit Unlimited Justice or Parents and Teachers Against Violence in Education to learn more and add your voice.<br />   </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:37:49 +0000 Anonymous comment 140809 at http://dagblog.com The reasons and responses http://dagblog.com/comment/140808#comment-140808 <a id="comment-140808"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/social-justice/simple-plea-do-not-lay-hands-upon-our-children-12177">A Simple Plea: Do Not Lay Hands Upon Our Children</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><br /> The reasons and responses given by advocates of child/adolescent/teenage-only corporal punishment are nearly always the same:<br /><br />  <br /> 1) "The Bible says...."<br /><br /> 2) Research/statements from the religious fundamentalist sector (as opposed to those who believe Jesus would never condone hitting a child).<br /><br /> 3) They're not doing it "right". I still haven't found any general consensus on a "right" method for hitting kids.<br /><br /> 4) "I was 'spanked' (or bullied in school, or raised by the state, drank the green water,etc) and I turned out OK."<br />  <br /> 5) If you don't "spank" children, they'll end up in prison/hell/with terrible manners (hitting being confused with discipline).<br />   </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:37:06 +0000 Anonymous comment 140808 at http://dagblog.com I was reading the following http://dagblog.com/comment/140676#comment-140676 <a id="comment-140676"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/social-justice/simple-plea-do-not-lay-hands-upon-our-children-12177">A Simple Plea: Do Not Lay Hands Upon Our Children</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I was reading the following <a href="http://lorialexander.blogspot.com/2011/11/happy-duggers.html#idc-container">http://lorialexander.blogspot.com/2011/11/happy-duggers.html#idc-container</a> blog today.  The author is advocating  that people use "To Train Up a Child" as a manual for raising children.  Her suggestion appears in the comment section of her blog post about the Duggars.  Please read and let her know that "To Train Up a Child" is a manual for child abuse!</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:08:45 +0000 Anonymous comment 140676 at http://dagblog.com Thanks for the info, Julie. http://dagblog.com/comment/140592#comment-140592 <a id="comment-140592"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/140533#comment-140533">Mandatory reporters of</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Thanks for the info, Julie.  I'd like to suggest that you break long blocks into paragraphs.  Makes for easier reading.  Thanks.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:25:55 +0000 Ramona comment 140592 at http://dagblog.com Hmm, she's also a Wiccan. http://dagblog.com/comment/140584#comment-140584 <a id="comment-140584"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/140583#comment-140583">Minor piece of information.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Hmm, she's also a Wiccan.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:21:26 +0000 Donal comment 140584 at http://dagblog.com Minor piece of information. http://dagblog.com/comment/140583#comment-140583 <a id="comment-140583"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/140510#comment-140510">I am an Adlerian; I believe</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Minor piece of information. Margot Adler of NPR is the grand daughter of the psychologist (Alfred ?).</p> <p>Margot is on the staff at WNYC and was the host of Justice Talking an excellent  weekly debate by legal experts that aired nationwide for some years.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:16:06 +0000 Flavius comment 140583 at http://dagblog.com Headmaster Derek Slade was http://dagblog.com/comment/140534#comment-140534 <a id="comment-140534"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/140508#comment-140508">Interesting, isn&#039;t it, that</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Headmaster Derek Slade was the subject of a recent documentary by Roger Cook that aired on the BBC in August of this year titled "Abuse of Trust" for his sadistic beatings and sexual abuse of young boys, the sons of Britain's soldiers, spanning decades.</p> <p>Get the facts, search "A Violent Education".  Please add your support to Federal Legislation H.R. 3027 "The Ending Corporal Punishment in Schools Act" at donthitstudents dot com</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:36:38 +0000 Julie Worley comment 140534 at http://dagblog.com Mandatory reporters of http://dagblog.com/comment/140533#comment-140533 <a id="comment-140533"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/social-justice/simple-plea-do-not-lay-hands-upon-our-children-12177">A Simple Plea: Do Not Lay Hands Upon Our Children</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Mandatory reporters of suspected child abuse, school teachers, coaches and administrators legally abuse schoolchildren K-12 everyday in U.S. schools, it's called Corporal/Physical Pain/Paddling (SEXUAL ASSAULT when done to a non-consenting adult) to Punish students for minor infractions.</p> <p>U.S. Congressman Miller, Chairman of the Senate Education H.E.L.P. Committee along with Congressman John Kline, MN, Chairman of the U.S. House Committee on Education and members of both the U.S. House Committee on Education and the Senate Education H.E.L.P. Committee Must Abolish Corporal/Physical Pain/Paddling (Sexual Assault when done to a non-consenting adult) of Students K-12 in ALL U.S. Schools, already Illegal in Schools in 31 U.S. States! H.R. 3027 "The Ending Corporal Punishment Schools Act" is languishing in Congress House Comm. on Education and due to expire early December 2011, earlier version of this important children's rights/equality to access to safe and healthy learning environments legislation H.R. 5628 DIED in Congress 2010 after hearings were held on April 15, 2010 by the Healthy Families and Communities Subcommittee. Search "A Violent Education" issued to U.S. Gov't. Officials by Human Rights Watch and ACLU on 8/20/08 for disturbing facts, including several incidents of legal child abuse by mandatory reporters of suspected child abuse in schools where school employees, teachers, coaches and administrators are protected from criminal/civil action by "Teacher Immunity Laws" when children suffer injuries from school punishment! Add your voice to support Federal Bill H.R. 3027 at donthitstudents dot com</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:24:23 +0000 Julie Worley comment 140533 at http://dagblog.com