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That law is really the limit,

NCD — Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:54:01 +0000

In reply to Meanwhile, while that was on

That law is really the limit, when the Rethugs came out with that there was a reporter, might have been Motherjones, who got a Florida gun license and gun in Florida when he listed his home address in ANOTHER state.

Basically, anyone could legally have a loaded gun anywhere if this passes, at least police now can separate most bad guys and gang bangers out by checking who has a legal permit and who doesn't, in states that have some requirements for carrying.

Thank God he didn't rent a

Resistance — Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:36:17 +0000

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Thank God he didn't rent a Ryder truck and put fertilizer and diesel fuel in the back and drive it into the parking lot.

Thank the NRA for resisting

Resistance — Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:26:49 +0000

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Thank the NRA for resisting the oligarchs and their dupes attempts, to make laws to prevent concealed carry permits.

I'm sure some woman in a parking garage, going to her car will feel a little safer. She wont have to call 911 after the assault.

How do I answer this question posed by many; "Wheres a cop when you need one'?

I would just take your

artappraiser — Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:18:18 +0000

In reply to Get a grip Resistance. Guns

I would just take your argument about the Taliban and Iraqi insurgency further and say that it's not any traditional weapons that helped them most, but suicide bombing. No weapons or smart tactics can beat it for insurgency, partly because it causes any opponent who won't use it too to twist their own standards into knots.

From what I heard on NBC

Resistance — Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:15:33 +0000

In reply to Get a grip Resistance. Guns

From what I heard on NBC Nightly News, peaceful protests have failed and it turns out the people with guns might be bringing down the Syrian Government.

Guns work, signs don't? DOH!

As for fearing the voters? I can see them shaking in their boots now, as they give themselves another raise.

We are beyond a vote making it better; been there done that.

Gore won by over 500K votes, Bush won after getting only 300.

The game is rigged.

As for the shooting at the Whitehouse, I am relieved to hear no one was hurt; but the message it sent should wake up those in power. They do need to fear the voters who feel the leaders have only given lip service, to the needs of the people.

A disgruntled population isn't interested in a rigged voting game or machine.

ps. NCD ....whatever happened for the push for a paper trail using the Diebold voting machines?

Meanwhile, while that was on

artappraiser — Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:51:12 +0000

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Meanwhile, while that was on the front page of most news sites, this was going on:

Gun-rights advocates scored a key victory Wednesday with the passage of the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act — a bill that would allow states to recognize each other’s concealed-carry permits for firearms. The legislation still has to clear the Senate, where its fate is unclear. The House vote was 272-154, with 43 Democrats joining an overwhelming majority of Republicans to pass the bill.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/68541.html#ixzz1dw0H7oJg

So much for the oligarchy working to take the guns away.....

Get a grip Resistance. Guns

NCD — Thu, 17 Nov 2011 04:39:16 +0000

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Get a grip Resistance.

Guns might have been a major factor in warfare in 1776, but they aren't today. With armaments budgets in the hundreds of billions, your gun doesn't 'scare' the government, your vote does scare them. Unions scare them, and money not in their control scares them.

That is why the GOP tries to stop people from voting.

They let you, and even felons and the insane, have the modern warfare equivalent of pea shooters. They have the heavy weapons, the surveillance, your phone and email tapped, the courts in line, GITMO, and water boarding if the GOP gets back in. You have a gun, good luck, don't accidently shoot yourself with it.

Reality: when has any government been toppled with just guns in the last 100 years? Iraq? Libya? Did guns help the nutcases at Waco or Ruby Ridge? Even the fanatical Taliban have RPG's, and loads of bomb making material which is illegal in the US. Your gun ain't gonna save you, your vote might.

Re: I thought this blog was

artappraiser — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:32:34 +0000

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Re: I thought this blog was off the page until I saw you commented.

No blog with this software is ever really "off-the-page" to anyone who participated on it. If you wrote it or participated on it, any comments or updates will bump it up to the top of each participant's My Account/Track page, with a link in red to what is new on it. Granted, a lot of people don't look at their "Track" page often, but in my experience they eventually do, and look at any updates.

I just caught this on MSNBC

Richard Day — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:18:38 +0000

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I just caught this on MSNBC and then the NYT.

Incredible is it not?

I thought this blog was off the page until I saw you commented.

BULLETS ON THE WHITE HOUSE LAWN?

I laughed at the comments from the Park Police, but I bet the Secret Service aint pooh poohing this matter at all!

Update: turns out your post

artappraiser — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:53:24 +0000

In reply to TAKING SHOTS AT THE WHITE HOUSE

Update: turns out your post title can be taken literally. The reported incident you noticed turns out to have included actual bullets aimed at the White House and one hitting a White House window. They just didn't know it right away (kind of alarming in itself):

After Bullet Hits White House, a Manhunt and Arrest
By Charlie Savage, Brian Knowlton and Mark Landller, Ne York Times, Nov. 16, 2011

WASHINGTON — Federal law enforcement authorities on Wednesday arrested a 21-year-old Idaho man suspected of shooting with a semiautomatic rifle at the White House on Friday night, as the Secret Service reported finding that at least one bullet had indeed struck the presidential residence....

Gunfire was heard in the vicinity of the White House late Friday night, and a man abandoned a car several blocks away, fleeing on foot and leaving behind an AK-47 semiautomatic rifle. It was not clear for several days that someone had deliberately fired at the White House.

Investigators have been examining evidence found in the car and talking with relatives of Mr. Ortega.

Another law enforcement official, Sgt. David Schlosser of the Park Police, said that any motive would not be clear “until we can talk to this guy.” The Park Police had already issued an arrest warrant charging Mr. Ortega with a felony count of carrying a deadly weapon.....

Secret Service agents heard multiple shots on Friday and witnessed a car speeding away, westbound, on Constitution Avenue, according to a Secret Service official. The car and a semiautomatic assault weapon were found, abandoned, at a corner of Constitution Avenue and 23rd Street within a couple of minutes, this official said....