dagblog - Comments for "U.S. Marks End to 9-Year War, Leaving an Uncertain Iraq" http://dagblog.com/link/us-marks-end-9-year-war-leaving-uncertain-iraq-12495 Comments for "U.S. Marks End to 9-Year War, Leaving an Uncertain Iraq" en New York Times guest http://dagblog.com/comment/143610#comment-143610 <a id="comment-143610"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/us-marks-end-9-year-war-leaving-uncertain-iraq-12495">U.S. Marks End to 9-Year War, Leaving an Uncertain Iraq</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><em>New York Times</em> guest op-eds:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/16/opinion/an-unstable-divided-land.html?ref=opinion">An Unstable, Divided Land</a><br /> By Reidar Visser, Dec. 15/16, 2011</p> <p><em><a href="http://www.historiae.org/about.asp">Reidar Visser</a>, a research fellow at the Norwegian Institute of International Affairs, is the author of “A Responsible End? The United States and the Iraqi Transition, 2005-2010.”</em></p> <p>[....]<br /><br /> By consistently thinking of Mr. Maliki as a Shiite rather than as an Iraqi Arab, American officials overlooked opportunities that once existed in Iraq but are now gone. Thanks to their own flawed policies, the Iraq they are leaving behind is more similar to the desperate and divided country of 2006 than to the optimistic Iraq of early 2009.</p> </blockquote> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/16/opinion/in-iraq-abandoning-our-friends.html">In Iraq, Abandoning Our Friends</a><br /> By Kirk W. Johnson, Dec.15/16, 2011</p> <p><em><a href="http://thelistproject.org/withdrawal/?page_id=858" title="Kirk W. Johnson">Kirk W. Johnson</a>, a former reconstruction coordinator in Iraq, founded the List Project to Resettle Iraqi Allies. </em></p> <p>[....]</p> <p>And so our policy in the final weeks of this war is as simple as it is shameful: submit your paperwork and wait. If you can survive the next 18 months, maybe we’ll let you in. For the first time in five years, I’m telling Iraqis who write to me for help that they shouldn’t count on America anymore.</p> <p>Moral timidity and a hapless bureaucracy have wedged our doors tightly shut and the Iraqis who remained loyal to us are weeks away from learning how little America’s word means.</p> </blockquote> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:47:43 +0000 artappraiser comment 143610 at http://dagblog.com Tom Ricks, Dec. 15: One http://dagblog.com/comment/143609#comment-143609 <a id="comment-143609"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/us-marks-end-9-year-war-leaving-uncertain-iraq-12495">U.S. Marks End to 9-Year War, Leaving an Uncertain Iraq</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Tom Ricks, Dec. 15:  <a href="http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/12/15/one_colonel_s_thoughts_on_the_end_of_our_long_hard_involvement_in_the_war_in_iraq">One colonel’s thoughts on the end of our long, hard involvement in the war in Iraq</a></p> <p><em>Huffington Post</em>, Dec. 15: <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/graciela-tiscarenosato/iraq-final-march-homethou_b_1151577.html?ref=politics&amp;ir=Politics">Iraq Final March Home: Thoughts From a Latina Vet</a></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:32:49 +0000 artappraiser comment 143609 at http://dagblog.com Indeed. It is interesting to http://dagblog.com/comment/143608#comment-143608 <a id="comment-143608"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/143603#comment-143603">I was envisioning history</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Indeed.  It is interesting to note that the blogosphere basically emerged and grew up during the Iraq war.</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warblog">Warblogs</a> first appeared during the 2001 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_%282001%E2%80%93present%29" title="War in Afghanistan (2001–present)">U.S. invasion of Afghanistan</a>, and attained maturity during the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq" title="2003 invasion of Iraq">2003 invasion of Iraq</a>. While some warblogs arise out of and are directly limited in their coverage to the war in question, others expand their coverage to related political, social and cultural issues and continue commentating beyond the end of the war. Likewise, blogs that ordinarily cover non-war issues may dedicate their coverage during a time of war to the conflict, with some reverting to their previous missions at the end of the war, and others retaining their new character.</p> <p>The term "Warblog" was coined by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Welch" title="Matt Welch">Matt Welch</a>, who launched his warblog on September 17, 2001.</p> </blockquote> <p>Even those blogs that didn't deal with the war, or even politics, did so within a culture attempting to adapt to two wars oversees.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:31:45 +0000 Elusive Trope comment 143608 at http://dagblog.com Possible increase in gas in http://dagblog.com/comment/143607#comment-143607 <a id="comment-143607"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/143604#comment-143604">Iraq oil security tested as</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Possible increase in gas in the short term as a result of anxiety in the market?  Impact on the global economy as prices surge?  Increase in unemployment and higher governmental debts as tax flow decreases?</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:24:39 +0000 Elusive Trope comment 143607 at http://dagblog.com Iraq oil security tested as http://dagblog.com/comment/143604#comment-143604 <a id="comment-143604"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/us-marks-end-9-year-war-leaving-uncertain-iraq-12495">U.S. Marks End to 9-Year War, Leaving an Uncertain Iraq</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/16/us-iraq-oil-security-idUSTRE7BF11Q20111216">Iraq oil security tested as U.S. forces withdraw</a><br /> By Rania El Gamal, <em>Reuters</em>,<br /><br /> BAGHDAD | Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:32am EST - A bombing of southern Iraqi crude pipelines despite a nationwide alert against a possible surge in insurgent attacks has heightened fears for the future security of Iraq's vital oil sector as American troops withdraw. [....]</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:20:53 +0000 artappraiser comment 143604 at http://dagblog.com I was envisioning history http://dagblog.com/comment/143603#comment-143603 <a id="comment-143603"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/143601#comment-143601">I was wondering when someone</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I was envisioning history books saying it ended with a whimper, few having interest anymore. Also I was thinking about how the Iraq war was the basic cause of the popularization of the blogosphere as we know it. Sometimes I think more than a few bloggers can't let go of the "fighting George Bush" paradigm they began with, while at the same time no longer having any interest in Iraq.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:17:57 +0000 artappraiser comment 143603 at http://dagblog.com Oliver North @ Fox News, Dec. http://dagblog.com/comment/143602#comment-143602 <a id="comment-143602"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/us-marks-end-9-year-war-leaving-uncertain-iraq-12495">U.S. Marks End to 9-Year War, Leaving an Uncertain Iraq</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Oliver North @ Fox News, Dec. 16: <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/war-stories/transcript/colonel-corner/iraq-victory-or-defeat">Iraq: Victory or Defeat?</a></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:13:56 +0000 artappraiser comment 143602 at http://dagblog.com I was wondering when someone http://dagblog.com/comment/143601#comment-143601 <a id="comment-143601"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/us-marks-end-9-year-war-leaving-uncertain-iraq-12495">U.S. Marks End to 9-Year War, Leaving an Uncertain Iraq</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I was wondering when someone would mention this.  I went to a few sites like the Daily Beast and one had look around the site to find something talking about the folding up of the flag.  Both conservatives and liberals seem to want to not acknowledge this benchmark, or next phase, of the Iraq-US relationship, which will likely become something like the US relationship with Pakistan in the near future.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:13:10 +0000 Elusive Trope comment 143601 at http://dagblog.com