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Which, of course, puts all

jollyroger — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 00:05:33 +0000

Which, of course, puts all the action into the court of defining what sort of behaviour can trigger the accusation (which is, after all, the beginning and the end of the process as far as your liberty is concerned...).

Like taking pictures of monuments.

or.

Occupying

maybe posting satirical youtubes, who the fuck knows.

(Quickly puts up hand.) Me,

acanuck — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:42:19 +0000

In reply to I just think Barack Hussein

(Quickly puts up hand.) Me, sir! I know! Pick me! (Sees teacher is calling on Suzie, the class tease, once again. Like she knows! Gotta admit, though, she is kinda cute. Slowly pulls down hand.)

I simply asked a question

Kudra — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:24:37 +0000

In reply to No one here tried to contrast

I simply asked a question about qualifications after Mr. Greenwald's were brought up. And it seems to me if Mr. Muddy has to answer to his qualifications then everyone else commenting here like experts should have to as well, yes? I'll go first.

"Hi, my name is Kudra, and I like to masochistically subject myself to self-indulgent and insulting internet discussions--particulaly about American politics. I hold a Master's degree in human development from a prestigious university. I suppose I'm not qualified to be here.

I'll take my red herring back now.

I just think Barack Hussein

Dan Kervick — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:19:36 +0000

In reply to It's not necessary to leap

I just think Barack Hussein Obama is afraid to say "no" to the jackboots in his own national security establishment, and also afraid to do anything in an election year the area of national security that makes him look like one of those lib'ruls who are squishy on terrorism.

He's probably thinking that since the law gives him the discretion, and since he's such a nice guy, nothing will go wrong so long as he never agrees to lock up any American citizen-suspects in a military prison.

Sounds like a plan. What could possibly go wrong?

My response was completely

Kudra — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:14:00 +0000

In reply to It's not necessary to leap

My response was completely tongue-in-cheek. But I see you got my point. :)

It's not necessary to leap

Verified Atheist — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:59:02 +0000

In reply to Oh, indeed. Nefarious, that

It's not necessary to leap from "completely ignorant" to "scheming dictator". It's not a reach to assume that Obama's willing to risk the liberties of the few for what he perceives to be the good of the many. I don't think Obama's evil. I just think he's wrong on this issue and that he's possibly being less than honest (like virtually all politicians). No melodrama required.

No one here tried to contrast

acanuck — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:46:44 +0000

In reply to So...being a Constitutional

No one here tried to contrast Greenwald's legal qualifications with Obama's. That's a total red herring. What has been questioned is whether Muddy understands what he is talking about. He was asked what his qualifications to analyze the bill were, and he gave no answer. I asked him how Greenwald's reading of the bill constituted a lie, and got no answer. Greenwald (and others) have laid out in detail what they find objectionable in this bill; Muddy has given us an over-the-top vitriolic rant. If this conversation has been interesting, it's despite Muddy's role in it.

Oh, indeed. Nefarious, that

Kudra — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:40:44 +0000

In reply to I think the concern is that

Oh, indeed. Nefarious, that one. Perhaps we should cease this discussion, lest we be putting ourselves at risk of indefinite detention. *runs screaming from the room*

Speaking as a pock-marked

Richard Day — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 20:32:13 +0000

In reply to No it wasn't. It was just a

Speaking as a pock-marked pansy (since age 13):

GREAT FRICKIN RANT! HAHAHAH

I think the concern is that

Verified Atheist — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:57:50 +0000

In reply to So...being a Constitutional

I think the concern is that President Obama understands the bill just as well as Mr. Greenwald, and not that he doesn't.