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...before it occupies you!

erica20 — Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:43:12 +0000

In reply to Occupy Cellulite

...before it occupies you!

Occupy Cellulite

Donal — Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:01:43 +0000

In reply to My take is more like: it's

Occupy Cellulite

My take is more like: it's

artappraiser — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 22:38:27 +0000

In reply to My guy read the Tara Parker

My take is more like: it's about time we started seeing articles to make the holier-than-thou skinnies just quit their yappin about stuff they know nothing about (and to some exceptionally prejudiced and small-minded G.P.'s and internists out there: yes, I'm including you) But it's all good.

My guy read the Tara Parker

erica20 — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 21:28:38 +0000

In reply to The Fat Trap

My guy read the Tara Parker Pope piece, and said "Wow, The New York Times wrote an article about something that fat people have known forEVER."

My brother also lost a lot of

Verified Atheist — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 20:33:23 +0000

In reply to P.S. More personal anecdotals

My brother also lost a lot of weight on Atkins, and gained it back again, and lost it, and gained it back again. His protein diet is very scary for what it does to the liver and kidneys.

It's definitely true that there's no one-size-fits-all routine, and although there is a generally reliable rule of "eat less, exercise more", that's easier for some of us to do than others, especially when one factors in the variable amounts of "less/more" that applies to each individual. In some ways, it's not unlike alcoholism. Although I drank a bit when I was young (mostly before I turned 21), I've never had a taste for it. I have no basis for judging what an alcoholic experiences.

P.S. More personal anecdotals

artappraiser — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 20:28:27 +0000

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P.S. More personal anecdotals affecting my attitude. The spouse of over a quarter century is a 6'3" bulkster, football player and wrestler in college. I have many years experience seeing what he eats and how active he is. He is the caveman type, loves meat, always has, is now a foodie and and has had to force himself to get enthused about vegetables (formerly know as "rabbit food") and complex carbs. He is also reformed alchoholic. Alchohol has lots of calories, and constant use also fucks up your blood sugar and endrocrine system. Over the years, I watched him do things like try starve himself on Nutrisystem (which if you follow the instructions, has you adding a lot of very small portions of fresh food to their MRE's) and not lose much of anything. And I've also seen him lose weight rapidly, almost scarily rapidly (like in diabetes onset) on the Atkins diet, eating only the fats and proteins he loves. He is now losing weight with the fancy treadmill unused, but controlling portions, but I suspect it might be because of a health problem I won't got into.Again, it's just simple, and everyone is different.

You're absolutely right. I

Verified Atheist — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 20:28:16 +0000

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You're absolutely right. I should be clear that although I lost a significant amount of weight (nearly 50 pounds) when I took up running, most people would not have described me as noticeably overweight prior to me losing the weight (on a 6'2" frame, there's a lot of places to hide weight, and I was lucky, arguably, that my body type is one that distributes fat fairly evenly).

I do want to be clear that for me running was not just a means, but also a motive. If I gain 10 pounds, I notice it in my times before I notice it on my waist.

Thanks Emma.

artappraiser — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 20:15:11 +0000

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Thanks Emma.

The author of the article, as

artappraiser — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 20:14:30 +0000

In reply to If you want to lose weight,

The author of the article, as anyone who follows her columns knows, has trained for a marathon, and also knows and follows what is the most current consensus on healthy eating, admits that she too still struggles with weight, as she describes on page 2 of the piece, where she also says she couldn't do what it takes to maintain weight loss that some in her article do.

But you are on the right track in theory or approach, as training for a major sporting event might change the metabolism problems involved for some. As the article lays out, turns out it hasn't worked out that way for many, it just isn't that simple. That science is learning more and more how and in how many ways it's not that simple.

I've never had a weight problem, but like the author, my mother did and two of four sibling do. (And my spouse does as well.) I am the oldest, and I watched my mother gain more weight with each childbirth (hormones can do evil things) without eating more (and I know what she ate, believe me, there was no extra food or snacks in that household to binge on) and I despise, just despise the moralizing and prejudice about this whole topic. I've got my father's weight genes, I'm lucky there (along with his family's predilection for problems of the nervous system--justice I guess.)

I actually get "it's not fair!" anger emotions when I read examples like those in the article-the people who have to restrict calories to hunger levels and exercise each day just to maintain weight loss, when I can eat what I want whenever I want, (including, yes things like whole pints of Haagen Daaz and half of cakes at times if I feel like it or the whole meal at MacDonalds, with the sugary drinks) and not gain anything significant, even if I am not physically active.

Here's the ironic part about the moralizing: most eveyone in this culture wants to be thin. They don't need the lectures and the guilt. It's not like the 17th century when everyone wanted to be fat. It's the blame the victim thing that really bothers me. Until "they" figure it out, nobody should be blaming anyone. Seems like medicine still doesn't have much of a clue about the human body on this front, like with a lot of other things.

The apple never falls too far

Elusive Trope — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 16:45:29 +0000

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The apple never falls too far from the tree.