dagblog - Comments for "Welcome to the welfare states of America" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/welcome-welfare-states-america-12668 Comments for "Welcome to the welfare states of America" en Here's Duncan Black http://dagblog.com/comment/145880#comment-145880 <a id="comment-145880"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/145870#comment-145870">It&#039;s ironic that because of</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Here's Duncan Black today.</p> <blockquote> <p>Normally it's a bit of a joke, but sometimes I do despair reading through the comments sections of newspapers. Can so many people lack any empathy or sympathy for anybody? Have their lives been utterly mistake and tragedy free?<br /><br />  </p> </blockquote> <p>That's what I find even sadder..</p> <p>If 538 or so politicos have become heartless ,so be it. At least theoretically one of these days there might be a Washington Spring and  we might  choose a different  538 .But if 'we the people' have become heartless  we just might have the representatives  we deserve.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 08 Jan 2012 03:36:42 +0000 Flavius comment 145880 at http://dagblog.com hee hee hee what an image; http://dagblog.com/comment/145890#comment-145890 <a id="comment-145890"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/145860#comment-145860">I don&#039;t know why that scares</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>hee hee hee what an image; it's even funny to think of him tending a rose garden much less working in the fields....</p> <p>or how bout this one--Newt scrubbing the floor of an orphanage/school on his hands and knees with a scrub brush? <img alt="wink" height="20" src="http://dagblog.com/modules/ckeditor/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/wink_smile.gif" title="wink" width="20" /></p> </div></div></div> Sat, 07 Jan 2012 21:19:38 +0000 artappraiser comment 145890 at http://dagblog.com It's ironic that because of http://dagblog.com/comment/145870#comment-145870 <a id="comment-145870"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/145859#comment-145859">Glad you find it useful.The</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>It's ironic that because of the wealth and privileges, that for the most part, We, The People, have made possible for most of the politicos,  they are now so removed from the majority of us that they are unable/refuse to identify with the masses.  </p> <p>If only, like some slum landlords have had to endure living in the squalor of their properties, these politicians and their families had to live within the same means as those who they demean and dismiss.</p> <p>Sadly, they appear not only to be able to have their 'cake' and eat it too - they begrudge allowing the crumbs to be shared with those in need of the most minimal sustenance.  </p> <p>Perhaps the greatest irony of all is that it's our money they spend on their 'cakes' and we just keep electing those who use and abuse their positions in public office.  Ah yes, is this the government we deserve?!?</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:40:56 +0000 Aunt Sam comment 145870 at http://dagblog.com I don't know why that scares http://dagblog.com/comment/145860#comment-145860 <a id="comment-145860"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/145859#comment-145859">Glad you find it useful.The</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I don't know why that scares you. I think it'd be <em>great</em> if Gingrich went down to Alabama and harvested those crops. <img alt="wink" height="20" src="http://dagblog.com/modules/ckeditor/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/wink_smile.gif" title="wink" width="20" /></p> </div></div></div> Sat, 07 Jan 2012 11:57:30 +0000 Verified Atheist comment 145860 at http://dagblog.com Glad you find it useful.The http://dagblog.com/comment/145859#comment-145859 <a id="comment-145859"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/145784#comment-145784">Interesting that over fifty</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Glad you find it useful.The information, and more, was all in a recent issue of the Nation but spread over several separate articles. It seemed to me that the numbers, when isolated this way,  speak for themselves. And what they say ( to me)  is that rather than indulging ourselves in overly generous social programs,,we aren't doing the minimum to qualify as a compassionate country.</p> <p>But that's just  my reaction. I'm afraid that, Gingrich for example, would take those same numbers and argue  the opposite:we're still  too generous, ruining our moral fibre by allowing too many to dodge their responsibility to take care of themselves. Ought to get down to Alabama and harvest the crops left in the fields because of the exodous of the illegals. Or to the Central Valley and replace the Mexicans there. Getting soft.. </p> <p>Sad</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Sat, 07 Jan 2012 09:36:52 +0000 Flavius comment 145859 at http://dagblog.com Interesting that over fifty http://dagblog.com/comment/145784#comment-145784 <a id="comment-145784"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/welcome-welfare-states-america-12668">Welcome to the welfare states of America</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Interesting that over fifty percent of Congress is in the one percent for income.  The rich get richer, but the question is, 'Is it fair to assert that they are at least partially responsible for the poor getting poorer?'</p> <p>This type of post is what I consider, Need To Know!  Will copy and pass on.</p> <p>Appreciate.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 06 Jan 2012 04:16:21 +0000 Aunt Sam comment 145784 at http://dagblog.com I'm sorry, but I don't http://dagblog.com/comment/145782#comment-145782 <a id="comment-145782"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/145779#comment-145779">No she didn&#039;t go to bed</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I'm sorry, but I don't accept, in these times of struggle, that these people go on well-publicized vacations to Hawaii that cost (according to public records) $4 million dollars. </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 06 Jan 2012 03:57:08 +0000 Richard the Electrician comment 145782 at http://dagblog.com From Wikipedia: Michelle http://dagblog.com/comment/145780#comment-145780 <a id="comment-145780"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/145778#comment-145778">I&#039;ll check her bio.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>From Wikipedia:</p> <p>Michelle LaVaughn Robinson was born on January 17, 1964, in Chicago, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois" title="Illinois">Illinois</a>, to <a class="mw-redirect" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraser_Robinson" title="Fraser Robinson">Fraser Robinson III</a>,<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-MOMtBOD2008C_2-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-MOMtBOD2008C-2"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a></sup> a city water plant employee and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29" title="Democratic Party (United States)">Democratic</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precinct_captain" title="Precinct captain">precinct captain</a>, and <a class="mw-redirect" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Shields_Robinson" title="Marian Shields Robinson">Marian</a> (née Shields), a secretary at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiegel_%28catalog%29" title="Spiegel (catalog)">Spiegel's catalog store</a>.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-womanbehind_3-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-womanbehind-3"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a></sup> Her mother was a full-time homemaker until Michelle entered high school.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-PAW2009_4-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-PAW2009-4"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a></sup> The Robinson and Shields families can trace their roots<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-5"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-5"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a></sup> to pre-<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War" title="American Civil War">Civil War</a> African Americans in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States" title="Southern United States">American South</a>. Specifically, her roots can be traced to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gullah" title="Gullah">Gullah</a> people from South Carolina's <a class="mw-redirect" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowcountry" title="Lowcountry">Lowcountry</a> region.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-6"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-6"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a></sup> Her paternal great-great grandfather, Jim Robinson, was an American <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_United_States" title="Slavery in the United States">slave</a> in the state of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina" title="South Carolina">South Carolina</a>,<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-soil_7-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-soil-7"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a></sup><sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-cabin_8-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-cabin-8"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a></sup> where some of her paternal family still reside.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-BBC_9-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-BBC-9"><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a></sup><sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-NPR_10-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-NPR-10"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a></sup> Her maternal great-great-great grandmother, Melvinia Shields, also a slave, became pregnant by a white man. His name and the nature of their union have been lost. She gave birth to Michelle's biracial maternal great-great grandfather, Dolphus T. Shields.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-NYT-maternal_ancestry_11-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-NYT-maternal_ancestry-11"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a></sup></p> <p>Michelle grew up in a two-story house on Euclid Street in Chicago's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Shore,_Chicago" title="South Shore, Chicago">South Shore</a> <a class="mw-redirect" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_areas_of_Chicago" title="Community areas of Chicago">community area</a>. Her parents rented a small apartment on the house's second floor from her great-aunt, who lived downstairs.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-womanbehind_3-1"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-womanbehind-3"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a></sup><sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-WaPo2009-02-01_12-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-WaPo2009-02-01-12"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a></sup><sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-NY052404_13-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-NY052404-13"><span>[</span>14<span>]</span></a></sup><sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-MOAL_14-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-MOAL-14"><span>[</span>15<span>]</span></a></sup> She was raised in what she describes as a "conventional" home, with "the mother at home, the father works, you have dinner around the table".<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-FLIW_15-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-FLIW-15"><span>[</span>16<span>]</span></a></sup> The family entertained together by playing games such as <a class="mw-redirect" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly_%28board_game%29" title="Monopoly (board game)">Monopoly</a> and by reading.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-MOSS_16-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-MOSS-16"><span>[</span>17<span>]</span></a></sup> They attended services at nearby South Shore <a class="mw-redirect" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methodist_Church" title="Methodist Church">Methodist Church</a>.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-WaPo2009-02-01_12-1"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-WaPo2009-02-01-12"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a></sup> The Robinsons used to vacation in a rustic cabin in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Cloud,_Michigan" title="White Cloud, Michigan">White Cloud, Michigan</a>.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-WaPo2009-02-01_12-2"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-WaPo2009-02-01-12"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a></sup> She and her brother, <a class="mw-redirect" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Robinson_%28basketball_coach%29" title="Craig Robinson (basketball coach)">Craig</a> (who is 21 months older), skipped the second grade. By sixth grade, Michelle joined a gifted class at Bryn Mawr Elementary School (later renamed Bouchet Academy).<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-17"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-17"><span>[</span>18<span>]</span></a></sup></p> <p>She attended <a class="mw-redirect" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitney_Young_Magnet_High_School" title="Whitney Young Magnet High School">Whitney Young High School</a>,<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-West_18-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-West-18"><span>[</span>19<span>]</span></a></sup> Chicago's first <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_school" title="Magnet school">magnet high school</a>, where she was a classmate of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Jackson" title="Jesse Jackson">Jesse Jackson</a>'s daughter Santita.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-MOSS_16-1"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-MOSS-16"><span>[</span>17<span>]</span></a></sup> The round trip commute from the Robinsons' South Side home to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_West_Side,_Chicago" title="Near West Side, Chicago">Near West Side</a>, where the school was located, took three hours.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-tn_19-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-tn-19"><span>[</span>20<span>]</span></a></sup> She was on the honor roll for four years, took <a class="mw-redirect" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_placement" title="Advanced placement">advanced placement</a> classes, a member of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Honor_Society" title="National Honor Society">National Honor Society</a> and served as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student_council" title="Student council">student council</a> treasurer.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-womanbehind_3-2"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-womanbehind-3"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a></sup> Obama graduated in 1981 as the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salutatorian" title="Salutatorian">salutatorian</a> of her class.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-tn_19-1"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-tn-19"><span>[</span>20<span>]</span></a></sup></p> <p>Michelle was inspired to follow her brother to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton_University" title="Princeton University">Princeton University</a>;<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-PAW2009_4-1"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-PAW2009-4"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a></sup> he graduated in 1983. At Princeton, she challenged the teaching methodology for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_language" title="French language">French</a> because she felt that it should be more conversational.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-FWtWMO_20-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-FWtWMO-20"><span>[</span>21<span>]</span></a></sup> As part of her requirements for graduation, she wrote a thesis entitled "Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community."<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-thesis_21-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-thesis-21"><span>[</span>22<span>]</span></a></sup><sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-22"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-22"><span>[</span>23<span>]</span></a></sup> "I remember being shocked," she says, "by college students who drove <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW" title="BMW">BMWs</a>. I didn't even know parents who drove BMWs."<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-tn_19-2"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-tn-19"><span>[</span>20<span>]</span></a></sup> While at Princeton, she got involved with the Third World Center (now known as the Carl A. Fields Center), an academic and cultural group that supported minority students, running their day care center which also included after school tutoring.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-Biography_Today_23-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-Biography_Today-23"><span>[</span>24<span>]</span></a></sup> Robinson majored in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sociology" title="Sociology">sociology</a> and minored in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American_studies" title="African American studies">African American studies</a> and graduated <i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_honors" title="Latin honors">cum laude</a></i> with a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachelor_of_Arts" title="Bachelor of Arts">Bachelor of Arts</a> in 1985.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-womanbehind_3-3"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-womanbehind-3"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a></sup><sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-24"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-24"><span>[</span>25<span>]</span></a></sup> She earned her <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juris_Doctor" title="Juris Doctor">Juris Doctor</a> (J.D.) degree from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Law_School" title="Harvard Law School">Harvard Law School</a> in 1988.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-Princetonian_25-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-Princetonian-25"><span>[</span>26<span>]</span></a></sup> At Harvard she participated in demonstrations advocating the hiring of professors who were members of minorities<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-Newsweek20080225_26-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-Newsweek20080225-26"><span>[</span>27<span>]</span></a></sup> and worked for the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Legal_Aid_Bureau" title="Harvard Legal Aid Bureau">Harvard Legal Aid Bureau</a>, assisting low-income tenants with housing cases.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-27"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-27"><span>[</span>28<span>]</span></a></sup> She is the third First Lady with a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postgraduate_education" title="Postgraduate education">postgraduate degree</a>, after her two immediate predecessors, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_Clinton" title="Hillary Rodham Clinton">Hillary Rodham Clinton</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Bush" title="Laura Bush">Laura Bush</a>.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-VLiCBTO_28-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-VLiCBTO-28"><span>[</span>29<span>]</span></a></sup> In July 2008, Obama accepted the invitation to become an honorary member of the 100-year-old black sorority <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Kappa_Alpha" title="Alpha Kappa Alpha">Alpha Kappa Alpha</a>, which had no active undergraduate chapter at Princeton when she attended.<sup class="reference" id="cite_ref-celebrate_29-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama#cite_note-celebrate-29"><span>[</span>30<span>]</span></a></sup></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 06 Jan 2012 03:54:10 +0000 Richard the Electrician comment 145780 at http://dagblog.com No she didn't go to bed http://dagblog.com/comment/145779#comment-145779 <a id="comment-145779"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/145778#comment-145778">I&#039;ll check her bio.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>No she didn't go to bed hungry. Her father worked for the city water dept and was a democratic party precinct captain. Her mother stayed at home until the Michelle started high school. So they had enough money to afford her mother to do that.</p> <p>Some other items from Wikipedia. Michelle and her now- basketball- coach brother both skipped second grade. So her mother probably tutored them. Her great great grandparents on both sides were slaves. Pretty likely it took several generations before <u>they</u> were able to avoid going to bed hungry.</p> <p>Stay well.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 06 Jan 2012 03:52:49 +0000 Flavius comment 145779 at http://dagblog.com I'll check her bio. http://dagblog.com/comment/145778#comment-145778 <a id="comment-145778"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/145775#comment-145775">Yeah, sure she did. And cows</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I'll check her bio.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 06 Jan 2012 03:42:28 +0000 Flavius comment 145778 at http://dagblog.com