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US-Israel deal threatens

artappraiser — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 02:16:22 +0000

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US-Israel deal threatens progress
By Gareth Porter, republished by Asia Times Online from IPS, April 14

WASHINGTON - The Barack Obama administration has adopted a demand in the negotiations with Iran beginning on Saturday in Istanbul that its Fordow enrichment facility must be shut down and eventually dismantled based on an understanding with Israel that risks the collapse of the negotiations.

It is unclear, however, whether the administration intends to press that demand regardless of Iran's rejection or will withdraw it later in the talks. Washington is believed to be interested in obtaining at least an agreement that would keep the talks going through the electoral campaign and beyond.

The government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, on the other hand, has been extremely anxious about the possibility of an agreement that would allow the Iranian enrichment programme to continue. So it hopes the demand for closure and dismantling of Fordow will be a "poison pill" whose introduction could cause the breakdown of the talks with Iran.

In an interview with Inter Press Service (IPS), Reza Marashi, who worked in the State Department's Office of Iranian Affairs from 2006 to 2010, said, "If the demand for Fordow's closure is non-negotiable, the talks will likely fail."

Iran has already rejected the demand [....]

How to Tell if the Iran Talks

artappraiser — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 01:25:30 +0000

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How to Tell if the Iran Talks Are Working
By Mark Hibbs, Ariel Levite and George Perkovic, Op-Ed Contributors, New York Times, April 12/13, 2012

Mark Hibbs and Ariel Levite are senior associates of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace’s Nuclear Policy Program, which George Perkovich directs.

[....] Given these complexities, it won’t be easy to assess the progress of the coming talks. But we can suggest benchmarks: we can suggest benchmarks:

Oil prices: [....]

Access for verifiers: [....]

The bargaining issues: [....].

U.S.-Iran dialogue: [....]

Frequency and duration of meetings: [....]

A summer deadline: [....]

Iran, World Powers Launch

artappraiser — Sat, 14 Apr 2012 01:16:50 +0000

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Iran, World Powers Launch Nuclear Talks, VOA News, April 13

Delegations from Iran and world powers are in Turkey ahead of the first talks in more than a year on Iran's controversial nuclear program.

Iran and representatives of the United States, Britain, China, France, Germany and Russia [known as the P5 + 1] were holding preliminary meetings on Friday, ahead of direct talks set to begin Saturday in Istanbul....

Iran still coy on Turkey's

artappraiser — Mon, 02 Apr 2012 17:51:36 +0000

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Iran still coy on Turkey's overtures
By Kaveh L Afrasiabi, Asia Times Online, April 3, 2012

CAMBRIDGE, Massachusetts - Despite a strong personal pitch by the visiting Turkish premier last week to hold the next round of Iran nuclear talks in Istanbul, Tehran is still ambivalent and may opt for an alternative venue.

Although the talks are tentatively scheduled for mid-April, as the time of writing there has been no official announcement regarding the venue, even though Iran's Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi, in his meeting with Recep Tayyip Erdogan expressed his personal view that Istanbul was "the best place" to hold the multilateral talks between Iran and the "Iran Six" nations (UN Security Council's permanent five - the United States, France, the United Kingdom, Russia and China - plus Germany).

The fact that Erdogan's trip was followed by Turkey's announcement that it was complying with Western energy sanctions on Iran over its nuclear program and was thus reducing its oil imports from Iran by 20%, coinciding with opposite expressions by countries such as China and Pakistan, has certainly added to Iran's ambivalence.

This is not to mention Iran's misgivings about Turkey's anti-Damascus stance, the threat of military action in Syria together with North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) forces, as well as Turkey's embrace of an anti-Iran radar system, all of which have inevitably introduced uncomfortable thorns in Iran-Turkey relations.
As a result, no matter Erdogan's latest heroics regarding Israel's nuclear arsenal and his expression of support for Iran's civilian nuclear program, the political apprehensions and concerns about Turkey's regional intentions are becoming cemented in Iran. Even if Tehran agrees to hold the talks in Istanbul, this would be an uncomfortable decision taken with a good deal of reluctance.

By holding the Iran talks, Turkey seeks to replicate its efforts in the Syrian crisis [...]

Hard Line on Iran Places

artappraiser — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 01:55:46 +0000

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Hard Line on Iran Places White House in a Bind
By Mark Landler, Thom Shanker and Helene Cooper, New York Times, March 29/30, 2012

Lede: The White House is trying to convince Iran that it is serious about military action without leaving a sense that war is inevitable

WASHINGTON — As American and European diplomats prepare for crucial negotiations with Iran over its nuclear program, the White House finds itself caught in a bind: for the diplomatic effort to work, American officials say, the Iranian government must believe that President Obama is ready and willing to take military action.

Yet tough talk, necessary as it might be for successful diplomacy, contributes to a sense that war may be unavoidable. And it masks the fact that Mr. Obama, and his military commanders, remain deeply worried about the consequence of an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities, either by Israel alone or a strike that could draw in the United States [....]

Some White House officials acknowledge that in an election year when Republican candidates are calling for tougher action against Iran, the misgivings expressed by the Pentagon — both publicly and privately — over a strike could provide the president with some political cover.

A classified war simulation conducted by United States Central Command this month to assess the repercussions of an Israeli airstrike, for example, found that an Israeli attack could lead to a wider regional war, draw in the United States and leave hundreds of Americans dead, providing recent evidence to the skeptics — not only in the Pentagon but also in the White House and intelligence community as well — who have warned that any action by Israel against Iran could prove perilous.

At the same time, some current and former administration officials worry that any hesitancy about considering military action that is expressed in the United States could lull the Iranians into thinking that they do not need to make concessions at the negotiating table, just at a time when the diplomatic effort has taken center stage [....]

Three updates of import on

artappraiser — Thu, 15 Mar 2012 18:34:56 +0000

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Three updates of import on topic:

Iran cut off from global financial system (SWIFT) today
By Don Melvin, Associated Press, Updated 10:13 a.m., Thursday, March 15, 2012

BRUSSELS (AP) — Iran was largely cut off from global commerce on Thursday, when the company that handles financial transactions said it was severing ties with many Iranian banks — part of an international effort to discourage Tehran from developing nuclear weapons.

The action is meant to enforce European Union sanctions, as global financial transactions are impossible without using SWIFT, and will go a long way toward isolating Iran financially [.....]

Nuclear Talks Between Iran and P5+1 Will Be Held in Istanbul
Uskowi on Iran, March 10, 2012

Turkey’s Hurriyet Daily News, quoting Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, repored today that the talks on Iranian nuclear program between the six major powers and Iran will be held in Istanbul in early April.

(David Rothkopf at ForeignPolicy.com noted March 12 in his article "The Iceman Leadeth, The cool diplomacy of Barack Obama" that When Time's Fareed Zakaria recently asked Obama about his closest international relationships, the example he offered of Turkey's Recep Tayyip Erdogan seemed to many observers to be a reach, further proof of Obama's remoteness.)

Obama emerges from Israel-Iran talks with precious commodity
By Chris McGreal in Washington, guardian.co.uk, 9 March 2012

How Obama overcame the harsh rhetoric of Binyamin Netanyahu and others on Iran – and came out ahead [.....]

[....] General James Mattis,

artappraiser — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 04:50:55 +0000

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[....] General James Mattis, the head of Centcom, [....] in his testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee on Tuesday [....] also sounded quite dovish on Iran. "…[T]he best we can do…is to delay them. Only the Iranian people can stop this program."

I was also struck that General Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, in his own Senate testimony yesterday commented that Syria's air defense system is "approximately five times" more sophisticated than those NATO aircraft faced in Libya.

Is that called burying the lede?

from

Thomas E. Ricks, March 8 @ ForeignPolicy.com, J. Wing claims Iraq is not getting more violent, but J. Mattis sounds not so sure

Also see

Iran Watch: Bibi's Iran stopwatch by Uri Friedman @ ForeignPolicy.com, March 9, where he has set his "Iran Watch" at Natanz to worry about.

Obama Offers Israel a Path to

artappraiser — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 09:03:52 +0000

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Obama Offers Israel a Path to Avoid an Iran War, but Will Netanyahu Buy Its Terms?

Strong summary piece on what's going on on this front,
by Tony Karon @ Global Spin @ Time Magazine, March 2, 2012:

'19% of Israelis support

artappraiser — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 20:39:51 +0000

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'19% of Israelis support non-US-backed Iran strike'
By JPOST.COM STAFF 02/29/2012 17:49

Poll finds vast majority of Israelis against unilateral military strike on Iran, Israeli Jews prefer Obama over all republican rivals.

http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News/Article.aspx?id=259889

Despite blogosphere fear mongering, right wing hype, and any Netanyahu admin hype forthcoming in the near future, I feel pretty safe betting that it's not going to happen. It's all bluster. All parties involved like having a great number of people believe it's going to happen, indeed want enough people to believe it and aren't going to go out of their way to dissuade them from believing that it's going to happen, so that Iran too isn't 100% sure, but it's still not going to happen.

Tom Ricks has been talking

artappraiser — Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:47:51 +0000

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Tom Ricks has been talking with a mouse, too, a short "must read":

So I ran into a friend who knows a lot about U.S. policy and Iran. We sat down on a park bench and this is what he told me:

continued at

'It is not in the American national interest to go to war against Iran anytime soon'
By Thomas E. Ricks, Best Defense @ foreignpolicy.com, Feb. 24, 2012 - 10:23 AM