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re: methinks that maybe some

artappraiser — Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:11:11 +0000

In reply to Well you make me want to get

re: methinks that maybe some issues with Dad are involved:

A Godless commie grandfather; whether Dad was escaping from that or simpatico , doesn't say, but does say Rick has visited in the past (and no suggestions about any attempted exorcisms of Satanic influence on relatives at the time)

I know this is a serious

Orlando — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:53:44 +0000

In reply to Deviled Ham might be OK,

I know this is a serious thread, what with the threat of Satan taking over America and all, but Donal, your comment made me laugh and laugh and laugh. Yep. Still laughing.

To be honest, most Christians

rmrd0000 — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 05:12:14 +0000

In reply to Satan vs. Santorum

To be honest, most Christians in the United States share a fear of Rick Santorum and Franklin Graham with many of there fellow citizens. Santorum wants you to fall into lockstep with his view of Christianity. Look at how many Christians Santorum is willing to purge from the "Church". Instead of Christian love, Santorum sees only fire and brimstone.

Watching the funeral of Whitney Houston, a sinner, one could feel the power of the belief that she was loved by God. The homegoing celebration was not denied to her because of her human flaws. I simply cannot see the Church Of Santorum doing anything but ridiculing Houston and using the funeral to criticize her use of drugs. There is no humanity in Santorum's religion. If you don't reach his view of perfection, you are not worthy.

If anyone has a phony religion, it is Santorum. The beauty is that the more Santorum talks about his religious views, the more he alienates people.

This just published: another

artappraiser — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 03:48:41 +0000

In reply to Emma, yes, it's just so wack,

This just published: another former good Catholic girl, Maureen Dowd, thinks he's more small-town mullah than Savonarola, but also says her very Catholic brothers disagree with me:

Rick’s Religious Fanaticism
By Maureen Dowd, New York Times, Feb. 21, 2012

[....] Satan strikes, a Catholic exorcist told me, when there are “soul wounds.” Santorum, who is considered “too Catholic” even by my über-Catholic brothers, clearly believes that America’s soul wounds include [....]

You missed a major point.

NCD — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:46:39 +0000

In reply to Satan vs. Santorum

You missed a major point. Santorum voted in partisan lockstep with the GOP, Yea, to authorize the Iraq War, a measure which failed on the Democratic side of the aisle.

In supporting the war, Santorum violated the public pleas to not start the war, expressed by the late Pope John Paul, and the Santorum backed war set in motion the precise events that Pope John Paul warned would occur:

The Vatican has made clear its opposition to what US officials refer to as a preventive war against Iraq, saying it would not qualify as a just war, our correspondent says.

The Vatican also fears that war against Iraq might trigger an anti-Christian backlash in the Muslim world.

Since that fateful day that Bush ordered the invasion against the admonition of the Pope, Iraqi churches have been bombed, Christians kidnapped and killed, thousands have been displaced or left homeless, and Christians have been in unprecedented danger, from Pakistan to Iraq, to Egypt. Tens of thousands of innocent Muslims have also perished in the conflict. The Christians of the region have been less able to freely practice their religion, or lead the lives they once enjoyed, due to the unnecessary fiasco that Satan, George W. Bush and Santorum set in motion with the war authorizing vote, pushed through in a pre-midterm election political jujitsu move by the GOP, in October, 2002. Iraq wasn't a political war or a cultural war. It was a real war, not a game of dominoes. Now Santorum and the GOP want to start another war with Iran.

Auntie, for chrissakes; do

Richard Day — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:22:43 +0000

In reply to When 'Myth', Newt and Rick

Auntie, for chrissakes; do not you already know that white men are sent by God Almighty to tell us what we should do?

Come on Auntie. FOR HEAVENS SAKE!

hahahahah

Well you make me want to get

artappraiser — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:51:59 +0000

In reply to When I was a kid I went from

Well you make me want to get into some naughty & silly but fun pop psychologizing speculation about Ricky Santorum. Santorum's Dad was an Italian immigrant, so one would think he'd be raised classic Eye-talian Catholic, but then you see his Dad's immigration was at the tender age of 7. And Dad apparently became assimilated to secular America as he grew up to be a *gasp* clinical psychologist. Oy, methinks that maybe some issues with Dad are involved? Also at the link: Ricky was raised in West Virginie, classical hellfire and damnation territory, and attended public schools there, not parochial. It wasn't 'til the family moved to Illinois that Ricky got a year of parochial, his last year of high school. With that education and parental units, this former good Catholic girl operating under her former persona thinks: not a "real" Catholic, not enough indoctrination, confused about what Catholic means by environmental contamination (similar to those Arizona Catholics in your anecdote.)

I didn't say the Protestant

artappraiser — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:50:28 +0000

In reply to I had a nice long reply that

I didn't say the Protestant Reformation wasn't right.

I had a nice long reply that

EmmaZahn — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:41:06 +0000

In reply to P.S. I can't get over how

I had a nice long reply that either your edit or destor's reply preempted --- and I had not yet copied it. Oh, well.

FWIW, I grew up in one of those unadorned little churches with hard benches -- an no a/c. Sure there were some hellfire-and-damnation sermons but mostly during the August revivals when thoughts of anything hotter had particular effect. Never really heard much about Satan himself until studying Paradise Lost in college.

The church was built by the community, literally, like a barn raising. Timber was cut and milled on site and everyone showed up to work. My earliest memories are of Sunday School every Sunday but sermons only once a month from rotating lay preachers. That eventually grew to twice a month and eventually to a full time pastor.

From what I have seen it makes a difference when a church is community based versus preacher based. Preacher based churches strike me as more cultish and that is the standard model nowadays.

I haven't attended church regularly in over forty years but I am forever grateful for the immunity my unadorned little church gave me to all the wack theology and glib atheism floating around.

So weird Des. when I went to

tmccarthy0 — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:27:23 +0000

In reply to When I was a kid I went from

So weird Des. when I went to boarding school in Maine I used to go to church occasionally, so I could take one of the school cars out. The Church was old and beautiful, but not only did they have a Latin Mass, (never ran across that out in the west) and they seemed obsessed with being struck down because of sin, Satan and all things evil, (everything) as if Vatican II never happened! Although it wasn't different from being in Manila to me, where they never acknowledged Vatican II, it was all, you will die if you don't obey, sinners!

Good thing when I was a teenager every Mass I attended was a High Mass, so those yokels aka Priests just made me laugh hard. Hah!