dagblog - Comments for "Ramarley Graham, 18, shot dead in the Bronx, at the hands of an occupying army."

re:change of venue, Diallo,

jollyroger — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:38:29 +0000

In reply to They'll ask for a change of

re:change of venue, Diallo, acquitted by Albany jury. Bell, acquitted in bench trial in Queens. so it looks like a local judge is OK, but not local jury.

They'll ask for a change of

Resistance — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:34:32 +0000

In reply to differing from Sean Bell and

They'll ask for a change of venue, claiming the judge is biased.

(As though they weren't already?) A cop always tells the truth; didnt you know?

differing from Sean Bell and

jollyroger — Thu, 14 Jun 2012 00:01:24 +0000

In reply to It's big news in the

differing from Sean Bell and Amadou Diallo's cases, who were shot out on the street. It'll depend which trial dept gets the case. Maybe they'll give it to the judge who got his throat crushed last week.

It's big news in the

artappraiser — Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:23:14 +0000

In reply to Cop indicted. Bet he opts

It's big news in the Bronx--

BTW

The Daily News has updated, he was in court to face charges, plea and bail (which he got), and Rev Al and protesting friends were there, as well as major Graham family support

As far as him walking there's this at the end of the article

London said the officer was looking forward to his day in court.

“In some ways it's a relief because now we'll get to have our say and litigate this case, and we're confident that we'll be successful at the conclusion of it," he said.

London said the defense would focus on Haste’s “state of mind at the time that this incident occurred."

But Dr. Robert Gonzalez, a police training expert from John Jay College of Criminal Justice, predicted the defense will have a tough time winning an acquittal.

Haste did not have the “close and continuous” pursuit that would have allowed him to enter Graham's home without a warrant before the shooting, Gonzalez said.

Cop indicted. Bet he opts

jollyroger — Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:58:47 +0000

In reply to Ramarley Graham, 18, shot dead in the Bronx, at the hands of an occupying army.

Cop indicted. Bet he opts for bench trial. (no jury) and walks.

my secret shame: cops like

jollyroger — Thu, 01 Mar 2012 04:43:15 +0000

In reply to And your take on

my secret shame: cops like me. which I offer to rebut the accusation that I always find NYPD to be a fault. That said, I don't quite see the relevance of your anecdote to the cited case.

And your take on

nothere — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 15:56:00 +0000

In reply to Ramarley Graham, 18, shot dead in the Bronx, at the hands of an occupying army.

And your take on this?

http://www.thelodownny.com/leslog/2012/02/photos-columbia-street-after-l...

Like, for instance, why did the non-cop have a gun? Or, perhaps: I've not followed your blog closely, but have you given equal time to ranting about the traffic of black-market guns up 95 from the south? ISTM that if that traffic were stopped then it's likely that the police would feel a lot safer in the course of their jobs.

The link above is, BTW, in my neighborhood in NYC. A possible answer to the question I pose is that different housing projects are, for lack of a better descriptor, duplicating (literally) a Hatfield-McCoy blood-feud.

Don't get me wrong: when I see the NYPD heading toward, or gathered near, a specific spot I go in the direction of away ASAP; because I don't want a beat-down or an arrest.

But it's just not the case that the NYPD is at such a complete fault, as you seem to say.

Police states are efficient

jollyroger — Sat, 25 Feb 2012 02:21:20 +0000

In reply to I noticed that in your choice

Police states are efficient at crime prevention.

I will concede the point.

But even if we desire to vindicate the interest of the police in having everyone (and their prints, dna, etc, "in the system"), we might argue that a better way to accomplish this dubious result would be simply take all the information from everyone at birth.

That said, and not wishing to belabor the collateral damage (deaths thru police misunderstanding) that results from the present devotion to stop and frisk as the portal to universal biometric collection, it is a long way from street (community?) policing to armored personnel carriers,.

Indeed, the militarization of attitude that accompanies the weapons acquisition and attendant indoctrination makes more likely the prospect of tragedies like Graham's killing.

I will examine in greater detail the interaction of stop and frisk with drug prohibition later.

I noticed that in your choice

artappraiser — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:52:44 +0000

In reply to Ramarley Graham, 18, shot dead in the Bronx, at the hands of an occupying army.

I noticed that in your choice of blogging, you are hot and heavy on the theme of NYC cops = police state, and therefore just another example of the whole country going down the tubes civil rights wise

This current story is a egregious example with no excuse, and I want to make it clear I am not commenting on it

But on your past post on stop-and-frisk, I was tempted to suggest you read a New Yorker piece that was extremely popular on the internets around the same time

The Caging of America
Why do we lock up so many people?
by Adam Gopnik January 30, 2012

Read more http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/atlarge/2012/01/30/120130crat_atla...

Since you seem devoted to following the NYC cops theme, I would just suggest you read it and all the way through, past the parts where he discusses the jailing of America and onto the parts about Franklin E. Zimring's research and new book on what NYC might be doing right to really greatly reduce the number and percentage of people in prison while greatly reducing crime--surprise, one of the main things Zimring found to be helping those trends is "stop and frisk." Whether or not you end up agreeing, I guarantee the article will challenge your preconceptions, always a good thing, mho. Zimring's book is now high on my "to read" list precisely because what Gopnik said about his research in this article challenged my own presumptions. I did not know that besides reducing crime, NYC had also greatly reduced their prison population; that's because I had been fallling for rants about it being a police state on the internets......

PS Puhleez no one assign me with tender feelings for the NYPD because of this comment; I am in the 50th Precinct, where many of them are a lovely bunch of corrupt parking ticket fixers under indictment....