dagblog - Comments for "100 Years ago - The Titanic and Wireless" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/100-years-ago-titanic-and-wireless-13563 Comments for "100 Years ago - The Titanic and Wireless" en According to what I read http://dagblog.com/comment/152659#comment-152659 <a id="comment-152659"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/152616#comment-152616">The info I have been able to</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>According to <a href="http://www.titanic-lore.info/harold-cottan.htm">what I read here</a>.  The captain of the Carpathia gave Cottam and Bride orders to pass on only disaster related messages.</p> <blockquote> <p><span style="color:#006400;"><font size="3">As night was falling, Captain Rostron began to worry about his lone Marconi Man. He sent two officers below decks to the infirmary where Harold Bride was recovering from crushed and frostbitten feet with the message that Cottam was "acting queer" and could he help? Bride gamely agreed and was carried up to the wireless shack. Captain Rostron then declared that the wireless would only be used to transmit only disaster related messages--giving the two Harolds total control over what was and was not sent to New York. They took the "only disaster related messages" order to mean survivors names and any messages for their families. This is why all outside inquiries were ignored. </font></span></p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Mon, 16 Apr 2012 04:11:35 +0000 cmaukonen comment 152659 at http://dagblog.com You are welcome. I found the http://dagblog.com/comment/152655#comment-152655 <a id="comment-152655"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/152653#comment-152653">Hey Chris, This is great, not</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>You are welcome. I found the stories about Cottam and Phillips and Bride and their friendship to be the most interesting. And to think Phillips and Bride were assigned to the Titanic and Cottam was on the Carpathia and they all knew each other.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 16 Apr 2012 03:27:13 +0000 cmaukonen comment 152655 at http://dagblog.com Hey Chris, This is great, not http://dagblog.com/comment/152653#comment-152653 <a id="comment-152653"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/100-years-ago-titanic-and-wireless-13563">100 Years ago - The Titanic and Wireless</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Hey Chris,</p> <p>This is great, not only interesting, but something new and valuable learned about the Titanic that otherwise I wouldn't know.  </p> <p>Appreciate.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 16 Apr 2012 02:11:34 +0000 Aunt Sam comment 152653 at http://dagblog.com Sunday there is an auction of http://dagblog.com/comment/152619#comment-152619 <a id="comment-152619"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/100-years-ago-titanic-and-wireless-13563">100 Years ago - The Titanic and Wireless</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Sunday there is an auction of Titanic Memorabilia at Bonham's in NYC.  Lots 2026 through 2034 on the page of their online catalogue at the link below are 37 of the original Marconi messages from the <em>Olympic'</em>s radio log book regarding the <em>Titanic</em> sinking; you can get readable photographs of each of those if you click on the individual lots:</p> <p><a href="http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/19599/#MR1_page_lots=2&amp;MR1_results_per_page=20&amp;MR1_module_instance_reference=1">http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/19599/#MR1_page_lots=2&amp;MR1_results_per_p...</a></p> <p>The printed version of the auction catalogue gives the following introduction to these particular lots:</p> <blockquote> <p>The Marconi Company generated the compilation messages by reference to the " "Process-verbal" (an original term for radio log book) of all ships in the in the area under their control--at that time Marconi employed almost all the Radio Officers afloat. These messages are from the R.M.S. <em>Olympic</em>'s message book which comprises 37 messages on Marconi International Marine Communications Co. forms, and typed in purple ink. They provide a narrative of the race to rescue the Titanic, and later, the search for survivors. R.M.S. <em>Titanic</em>'s radio log book went down with the ship.</p> </blockquote> <p>Also, anyone interested in survivor accounts might want to take a look at lot 2070 here:</p> <p><a href="http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/19599/lot/2070/?page_anchor=MR1_page_lots%3D4%26MR1_results_per_page%3D20%26MR1_module_instance_reference%3D1">http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/19599/lot/2070/?page_anchor=MR1_page_lot...</a></p> <p>The print version introduction to lot 2070:</p> <blockquote> <p>The Andrew J. Cannata  Archive of R.M.S. <em>Titanic </em>Survivor Accounts</p> <p>The information contained in these letters and notes have never been published or shared before, and are generally unknown to the public. Their existence is known in select Titanic circles but has never left Mr. Cannata's possession. Andrew J. Cannata grew up in the town of Hingham, Massachusetts. His closest friend was British; whose father was a naval architect. His friend was fascinated by the Titanic and the story was made all the more captivating by his father's rendition in his British accent of what had occurred on that cold April night. These letters represent on the of the most significant archives of survivor accounts to have been gathered by one person in an informal setting.</p> </blockquote> <p>There are readable photographs of several of the letters and summaries of them available at the link.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:46:15 +0000 artappraiser comment 152619 at http://dagblog.com The info I have been able to http://dagblog.com/comment/152616#comment-152616 <a id="comment-152616"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/152606#comment-152606">Smithsonian lists famous</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The info I have been able to get was that there was no with holding of information. That the wireless operators were kept very busy with official traffic (messages) the entire time back to NYC and had to relay through others sometimes as the Carpathia's wireless was not as powerful as that of the Titanic or it's sister ship the Olympic.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 15 Apr 2012 04:17:19 +0000 cmaukonen comment 152616 at http://dagblog.com Here is my little offering: http://dagblog.com/comment/152615#comment-152615 <a id="comment-152615"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/100-years-ago-titanic-and-wireless-13563">100 Years ago - The Titanic and Wireless</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Here is my little offering:   Let me a entertain you...   (no not in a neglegay... just wanted to make a funny,  to start off...   </p> <p>What I want to put up is:  that maybe,  the Titanic disaster,  was...  well maybe it was a thing that had to happen,  it had to happen,  because society needs to move.</p> <p>Society,  or as one of my favorite musicians used to say it:   So So So Sy -U-Tee !!</p> <p>Maybe things have to "happen"  when somebody says so....  </p> <p>Things have to happen.</p> <p>have to and don't you try to stop it,  Jackson!</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 15 Apr 2012 03:10:00 +0000 geoshmoe3 comment 152615 at http://dagblog.com The red and blue networks http://dagblog.com/comment/152614#comment-152614 <a id="comment-152614"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/152610#comment-152610">RCA - the owner of the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The red and blue networks were the NBC radio networks. NBC network broadcasting began in November of 1926 with a broadcast from the old Waldorf Astoria, which was located on the site where the Empire State building now stands. I worked for NBC back in 1976, and got to attend the 50th Anniversary dinner. </p> <p>For a brief time, there were other colors as well, an orange and a gold network, which were mainly covering the West Coast.  The two main networks though were the red and the blue.  In 1939 the FCC told NBC they couldn't own two radio networks, so the blue was sold and eventually became ABC.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 15 Apr 2012 02:48:00 +0000 MrSmith1 comment 152614 at http://dagblog.com RCA - the owner of the http://dagblog.com/comment/152610#comment-152610 <a id="comment-152610"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/152605#comment-152605">During the Titanic sinking</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>RCA - the owner of the National Broadcasting Company as well as the Red and Blue networks, was formed at the beginning of WWI from General Electric by a recommendation of president <span class="st">Woodrow Wilson. For the purpose of removing the Marconi company's then monopoly on wireless in this country. </span></p> <p>The Marconi Wireless Telegraph Company of America assets were acquired by RCA in 1920.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 15 Apr 2012 01:29:55 +0000 cmaukonen comment 152610 at http://dagblog.com Smithsonian lists famous http://dagblog.com/comment/152606#comment-152606 <a id="comment-152606"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/100-years-ago-titanic-and-wireless-13563">100 Years ago - The Titanic and Wireless</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><a href="http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/Seven-Famous-People-Who-Missed-the-Titanic.html">Smithsonian</a> lists famous people who missed the voyage, one of whom was Guglielmo Marconi himself.</p> <blockquote> <p>The Italian inventor, wireless telegraphy pioneer and winner of the 1909 Nobel Prize in Physics was offered free passage on Titanic but had taken the Lusitania three days earlier. As his daughter Degna later explained, he had paperwork to do and preferred the public stenographer aboard that vessel. Although Marconi was later grilled by a Senate committee over allegations that his company’s wireless operators had withheld news from the public in order to sell information to the New York Times, he emerged from the disaster as one of its heroes, his invention credited with saving more than 700 lives. Three years later, Marconi would narrowly escape another famous maritime disaster. He was on board the Lusitania in April 1915 on the voyage immediately before it was sunk by a German U-boat in May.</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Sun, 15 Apr 2012 00:46:15 +0000 Donal comment 152606 at http://dagblog.com During the Titanic sinking http://dagblog.com/comment/152605#comment-152605 <a id="comment-152605"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/100-years-ago-titanic-and-wireless-13563">100 Years ago - The Titanic and Wireless</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>During the Titanic sinking and aftermath, a young David Sarnoff sat in a small shack atop the Wanamakers Department store on East 9th St. in Manhattan, receiving tranmissions from the Carpathia and he gave everyone the information on the names of survivors.  While he liked to say that he was the only operator receiving passenger lists of the survivors, that was not exactly true, but I suppose he was the one with the biggest ego and the most ambition.  So the legend has it that he sat in the shack for days and all other radio operators on the East Coast were ordered off the air so that they wouldn't interfere with his connection.  He became famous for that event.  Later, of course, he would take his idea of a "music box" in every home, and create the National Broadcasting Company.</p> <p>So, I guess in a way, the sinking of Titanic was responsible for the creation of the "lamestream" media. LOL</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Sun, 15 Apr 2012 00:43:32 +0000 MrSmith1 comment 152605 at http://dagblog.com