dagblog - Comments for "Extinguishing Kinkade" http://dagblog.com/arts-entertainment/extinguishing-kinkade-13589 Comments for "Extinguishing Kinkade" en Some people say Kinkade's art http://dagblog.com/comment/152858#comment-152858 <a id="comment-152858"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/arts-entertainment/extinguishing-kinkade-13589">Extinguishing Kinkade</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Some people say Kinkade's art was unoriginal and hacky. But at least unoriginal hacks can't be blamed for coming up with the bad ideas.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:06:28 +0000 Doctor Cleveland comment 152858 at http://dagblog.com It's a poisonous way to get http://dagblog.com/comment/152840#comment-152840 <a id="comment-152840"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/152834#comment-152834">but his brother blamed</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>It's a poisonous way to get high.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 19 Apr 2012 03:38:24 +0000 jollyroger comment 152840 at http://dagblog.com but his brother blamed http://dagblog.com/comment/152834#comment-152834 <a id="comment-152834"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/arts-entertainment/extinguishing-kinkade-13589">Extinguishing Kinkade</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p>but his brother blamed mean-spirited critics for the painter's personal decline.</p> </blockquote> <p>As someone who is currently in intensive out-patient treatment for alcoholism, and has been struggling with recovery for a decade now, I would say his brother is deep denial.  Family members of alcoholics and all other addicts can fall into making excuses like blaming others.  Kinkade has a medical disease with pyscho-emotional and physiological facets.  He unfortunately did not embrace the treatment options available to those who suffer from this affliction. </p> <p>Of course it is possible the critics held him down and made him consume the alcohol.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 19 Apr 2012 01:25:53 +0000 Elusive Trope comment 152834 at http://dagblog.com I don't think you can compare http://dagblog.com/comment/152830#comment-152830 <a id="comment-152830"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/152823#comment-152823">I don&#039;t build my own</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I don't think you can compare Duchamp's concept of Readymades with hiring a staff to do your painting for you.  With Duchamp, the whole point was that he, as the artist, was taking something that already existed and changing the context in which it is held, and that is what made it art.  It forced people to step outside their pre-conceived notions and look at an object from a different perspective..  By turning the urinal upside down and calling it "Fountain", he got people to see the beauty of the form of an everyday object. That was a radical idea in 1917.  Duchamp's conceptual vision is what resonates, not the fact that he didn't make the urinal, but bought it in a plumbing supply store. It's what he did with the Readymade that made it art.  Kinkade's vision was not in the idea or concept but in the craft, a craft which he farmed out to assistants. In my opinion, there's a very big difference between the two.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 19 Apr 2012 00:46:00 +0000 MrSmith1 comment 152830 at http://dagblog.com Let's put in some dark clouds http://dagblog.com/comment/152829#comment-152829 <a id="comment-152829"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/152817#comment-152817">I think someone needs to go</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Let's put in some dark clouds over here, just push your brush down, oh look...they're dumping rain all over unverified anonymous...</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 19 Apr 2012 00:21:44 +0000 jollyroger comment 152829 at http://dagblog.com Vincent: I've had to make http://dagblog.com/comment/152827#comment-152827 <a id="comment-152827"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/152824#comment-152824">Van Gogh&#039;s Ear Guy was one of</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Vincent: I've had to make some cuts.</p> <p>Ear Guy: Can't hear you ...</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 18 Apr 2012 21:24:26 +0000 Donal comment 152827 at http://dagblog.com Van Gogh's Ear Guy was one of http://dagblog.com/comment/152824#comment-152824 <a id="comment-152824"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/152823#comment-152823">I don&#039;t build my own</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Van Gogh's Ear Guy was one of the toughest jobs in the art world for awhile.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:10:51 +0000 Michael Maiello comment 152824 at http://dagblog.com I don't build my own http://dagblog.com/comment/152823#comment-152823 <a id="comment-152823"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/152821#comment-152821">Damian Hirst doesn&#039;t do all</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I don't build my own buildings, either. Not lately anyway. And as I mentioned before Marcel Duchamp once signed a commercial urinal and presented it as a work of art. And even the great painters used to have helpers doing the ears, and so on. But I think Kinkade removed himself to a far greater extent. And I think the vision was shallow. We'll see in a few decades if Kinkade art is still worth anything.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:07:10 +0000 Donal comment 152823 at http://dagblog.com It's true, I want to be http://dagblog.com/comment/152822#comment-152822 <a id="comment-152822"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/152819#comment-152819">Unfortunately, it is only the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>It's true, I want to be Dorian Grey. Dorien Grey on a bicycle of course.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 18 Apr 2012 19:41:31 +0000 tmccarthy0 comment 152822 at http://dagblog.com Damian Hirst doesn't do all http://dagblog.com/comment/152821#comment-152821 <a id="comment-152821"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/arts-entertainment/extinguishing-kinkade-13589">Extinguishing Kinkade</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Damian Hirst doesn't do all of his own work either. It's his vision, for what it's worth (not a fan) but he has people for the production of many of his artifacts.  And that's not so unusual in art, apparently.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 18 Apr 2012 19:36:04 +0000 Michael Maiello comment 152821 at http://dagblog.com