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Imagine There is no

A Guy Called LULU — Thu, 17 May 2012 17:24:08 +0000

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Imagine There is no Marriage

It is fitting that, in a political culture in which words alone suffice to fire up liberal enthusiasms, discussions of same sex unions nowadays turn in part on a word — “marriage.” ....
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This is odd because, from a legal point of view, the two are or could easily be made to come to the same thing. To the extent that both terms denote the same rights and privileges, why should anyone care which is used?

One reason is that same sex couples believe that the nomenclature associated with heterosexual marriage is itself a good that everyone, gay and straight, should be able to benefit from. Similarly, homophobes want to deny gay couples those benefits. I confess that I fail to understand the vehemence with which both sides pursue their respective cases; after all, “a word is a word is a word.”

But in a world where identity issues and related concerns about social recognition loom large, words take on a political charge that outsiders must respect, even when they don’t quite grasp why.
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In line with the genealogy of the idea and the institution it denotes, clerics nowadays, as in the past, serve as de facto agents of secular authorities; they are empowered to confer the secular rights and privileges that marriage entails. One would think that progressives of all stripes and sexual orientations would find this abhorrent.

Read the rest at:

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/05/17/imagine-theres-no-marriage/

Just now on memeorandum.

EmmaZahn — Fri, 11 May 2012 18:45:27 +0000

In reply to You might be right. He may be

Just now on memeorandum. Timing is so important.

That's cool!

Bruce Levine — Thu, 10 May 2012 23:01:27 +0000

In reply to There is evidence that

That's cool!

There is evidence that

A Guy Called LULU — Thu, 10 May 2012 22:48:44 +0000

In reply to Lulu, You can call me an

There is evidence that supports your conclusion. I certainly did not anticipate how bad Obama would be in a few areas. On the balancing side though, I do recognize it.
I do not anticipate ever calling you an idiot, I don't expect to see evidence that would make me believe that you are one, but that is about as far as I am willing to commit on the subject of various labels I might use in the future .

Trope doesn't even know that

Anonymous — Thu, 10 May 2012 21:11:30 +0000

In reply to Did you notice that it is a

Trope doesn't even know that this cartoon is one of an enormously long series on this topic.

Q.

Anonymous — Thu, 10 May 2012 21:08:37 +0000

In reply to That's rich. You were the

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Anonymous — Thu, 10 May 2012 21:08:24 +0000

In reply to Hey yeah, and remember your

Hey yeah, and remember your

Anonymous — Thu, 10 May 2012 21:08:01 +0000

In reply to Does it have to organic, fair

Hey yeah, and remember your "fuck the poor" discussion from earlier? You know, back when you were having the rich over to your table, but were freaking out about the violent tendencies of the protestors and the poor?

Yeah. Mockery from you counts a whole helluva lot.

Gee, Indiana.

That's rich. You were the

Anonymous — Thu, 10 May 2012 21:06:12 +0000

In reply to You really do need to get a

That's rich. You were the leader of the defend Obama brigade when it was early days and he gave a pass to every goddamn crook in the continental USA. But now? Best if we just step over that little dump he took in the middle of the sidewalk.

Your judgment sucked then, and it sucks now.

Next.

Lulu, You can call me an

Bruce Levine — Thu, 10 May 2012 20:34:12 +0000

In reply to Bruce, I reacted to your

Lulu,

You can call me an idiot, just don't call me an Israel Firster!

I don't anticipate that you will be actively campaigning for Romney's election, but do believe that you don't recognize how much worse it will be with Romney in office.