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participating in a

Resistance — Sun, 20 May 2012 01:50:01 +0000

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participating in a democracy.

Participate children, remain calm, be pacified.

In the end, you don't offer

Elusive Trope — Sat, 19 May 2012 18:29:36 +0000

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In the end, you don't offer anything but some abstract "point" as a solution. What is the point's position on the Israel/Palestine issue? Strip mining and clean coal? Abortion? Health care? Where does the state rights override the feds'? How much regulation on businesses is too much regulation? You know, the stuff that makes up the actual work of governing?

The reason that labels such as left and right, etc emerge is that people find themselves on opposing views of these issues.

In the end, the anarchists and libertarians who you seem to idolize want to get rid of government because they have taken the easy and erroneous path of believing all the ills of society are a result of government. In a lot of ways they are either the source of the problem or hinder addressing the problem.

But the notion that if government just gets out of the way is a simpleton's view of the situation.

Fixing government (and parties involved in it - something Ramona's blog addresses) is neither glamorous or ever fully achievable. It doesn't offer the hollywood induced romanticization of some revolution. It is frustrating with as many defeats as victories, if one is lucky. But that is a democracy.

The wealthy have always controlled things, and when they haven't fully controlled things, they have the upper hand. And when I say always, I mean when one looks back over the whole of history.

So keep dreaming your dream of this point that has never existed and never will. And while you do so, you are avoiding the real frustrating work of participating in a democracy.

Are you responsible for the

artappraiser — Sat, 19 May 2012 03:03:14 +0000

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Are you responsible for the coinage of "Bushbamney"? If so, congrats, that's the first savvy P.R. trick I've seen you produce. It's snappy, it's catchy, and it gets the point across without the need for your usual hyperbolic harangue, mho. S'rsly!

DRAFT RON PAUL GOP 2012!!!!!

NCD — Sat, 19 May 2012 00:10:34 +0000

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DRAFT RON PAUL GOP 2012!!!!!

I mean that you're refuting

Verified Atheist — Fri, 18 May 2012 18:53:36 +0000

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I mean that you're refuting his point, not vice-versa…

"Of course they supposedly

Michael Maiello — Fri, 18 May 2012 18:50:56 +0000

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"Of course they supposedly differ on social and other wedge issues the ruling elite contrive, revive and broadcast incessantly through mainstream media to keep people divided and fighting each other rather united and fighting them..."

This kind of bothers me. Cultural and social issues are not "contrived," they are real and present. Either same sex couples can marry or they cannot. Either homosexuals can serve openly in the military, or they cannot. Medicinal marijuana is either legal or not. Social Security benefits are actually meaningfully indexed to inflation or they are not. You have the right to own and carry a gun, or you do not. You have freedom of reproductive choice, or you do not. Your health insurance company either can or can't exclude you based on pre-existing conditions.

These are not phony, made up issues. Obama actually has delivered what I would consider to be positive results on some of them.

I saw no "refutation"

ironboltbruce — Fri, 18 May 2012 18:36:32 +0000

In reply to Here's Genghis' refutation...

I saw no "refutation" there...

Here's Genghis' refutation...

Verified Atheist — Fri, 18 May 2012 18:05:47 +0000

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Here's Genghis' refutation…