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Excellent perspective.

SleepinJeezus — Wed, 23 May 2012 12:40:39 +0000

In reply to Let me come at this from

Excellent perspective.

Yeah, but what school is it?

Donal — Tue, 22 May 2012 19:20:16 +0000

In reply to sympathetic yes. But the key

Yeah, but what school is it?

sympathetic yes. But the key

Elusive Trope — Tue, 22 May 2012 18:30:25 +0000

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sympathetic yes. But the key is how does that sympathy get translated into real life opinions, decisions, and actions. Something like the occupy movement depends upon not only active participation, but sustained active participation. It requires the people involved to be dedicated and committed to the cause. A sign like that just didn't get made spontaneously a few minutes before the ceremony. There was some thought, planning, effort - for what end? to be flippant about a serious issue. Of all the things they could have done, they choose, well beforehand, to do this. So I would say in many instances, even these particular graduates would be sympathetic to the 99%. But that sympathy is unlikely to translate into any real sacrifice or willingness to sacrifice.

If you're referring to

Verified Atheist — Tue, 22 May 2012 17:59:44 +0000

In reply to Which is all going around the

If you're referring to students' ability to make jokes about anything, I'd say the picture might be reflective. If you're talking about actual student attitudes, I'd say it's very unreflective. Even at UVA, which is a comparatively conservative school, I think you'll find that most students are sympathetic to the 99% and not the 1%. (I say "think" because this is based off the letters I read in the college paper and the students I talk to, both of which have certain selection biases.)

Which is all going around the

Elusive Trope — Tue, 22 May 2012 17:54:20 +0000

In reply to It does mean that, and

Which is all going around the point of me posting the picture, which is that one choose to go onto the ten random public universities today, just how much real socio-political activism along the line of the occupy movement is one going to find? How many students will one find trying to become part of the 1%, or at least 5%, and how many are looking to find a way for some kind of revolution? Would this picture tend to be more or less reflective of the average students' attitude?

And that weird site called TheChive happens to be, for better or for worse, one of the top websites in terms of visits (a million a day give or take a few). Actually I was working on a blog about it, since it reflects I believe a lot about where collectively we are culturally.

It does mean that, and

Donal — Tue, 22 May 2012 16:57:43 +0000

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It does mean that, and because the photo is from some weird site called Chive, I have no idea where it came from.

In my experience (as someone

Verified Atheist — Tue, 22 May 2012 16:56:35 +0000

In reply to What makes you think they're

In my experience (as someone who comes from a moderate background), if you're trying to decide whether to go to graduate school to get a graduate degree in the engineering, the arts, or science versus going for an MBA, a law degree, or medical degree, it's going to be very significant that the first type of degree tends to be free (with a stipend, no less), while the second type of degree tends to be expensive.

It could mean that. Not to

Elusive Trope — Tue, 22 May 2012 16:27:43 +0000

In reply to When I use the word if it

It could mean that. Not to be too persnickety, but it also could be interpreted as if you used the phraseology of something like "so if some politicians are making stupid speeches regarding the issue, it doesn't mean much in the long run," where the fact that they are politicians is not in question.

When I use the word if it

Donal — Tue, 22 May 2012 15:17:28 +0000

In reply to What makes you think they're

When I use the word if it means I don't know yet.

What makes you think they're

Elusive Trope — Tue, 22 May 2012 14:52:43 +0000

In reply to Well, Wall Street type were

What makes you think they're all privileged? A lot of the people who major in business come from less than privileged backgrounds. It is possible they have mommies and daddies who make 600K a year. Maybe they are not representative of youth in general at all. I believe they are - and it is significant that whatever is happening in terms of a movement is not reaching them, is not inspiring them.

In fact I'd rather see what they think in a few years.

What this implies is that the movement needs to have people experience the suffering before they'll join. Fortunately for the Civil Rights Movement, the movement didn't have to wait until white people suffered discrimination before it could succeed.