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Not sure where your mocking

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 29 May 2012 07:28:41 +0000

In reply to I get your train of thought I

Not sure where your mocking is going.

Greenwald is careful with his words - he would not call this a fascist dictatorship by any means.

Re: Patton, he put his black troops in action, an oddity in that war, and helping his Battle of the Bulge success. Yeah, he made a lot of stupid comments, but he wasn't a politician, he was an effective general, and if we're talking about war, that's what we're looking at. He does have something of a black mark at Biscari for recommending a cold-blooded shooting of 71 captured be covered up, though he wasn't involved in ordering it. Not sure any other atrocities.

I get your train of thought I

Richard Day — Tue, 29 May 2012 06:32:41 +0000

In reply to We need to stop saluting the

I get your train of thought I guess.

Patton was a racist, Confederate, anti-democratic prick...but we needed him as well as the other racist fascist Confederate pricks who helped us win the BIG ONE.

hahahahahahaha

And like I said and have said for a few years on the Web, these fascist repub pricks who talk about how they would leave all decisions concerning our wars to the generals on the field would result in a total fascist dictatorship.

Of course Greenwald would tell us we all have been subject to a fascist dictatorship and have been for 10 or 20 years.

I have been watching the latest 'news' from the Syrian front (I cannot believe we have nothing to do with this mess) and WE (who is we? is it the MSM or the cable MSM or Laura Bush?) are horrified that 40 or 50 or 100 children were just killed for no reason?

This after our MSM has informed me that our drones have killed thousands of men women and children in an attempt to kill 'terrorists'?

How many kids has America actually killed over the last 15 years or so?

I am getting a little depressed over all of this.

Of course that is easy for me sitting in my jammies speculating on matters over which I have no control.

Greenwald pisses me off but he has some salient points, to say the least.

I guess the best that I can glean from all of this is that fewer children are dying at this moment than 100 years ago or 50 years ago.

I mean some sort of progress can be discerned.

100 million died during the past century and and that rate of death from slings and arrows and atom bombs appears to be on the decline.

Progress is our most important product.

So said the interrupters of my favorite tv programs fifty years ago.

Progress and not perfection.

I have no idea what this all means.

the end

We need to stop saluting the

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 29 May 2012 05:38:17 +0000

In reply to We need to stop saluting the ‘generals’

We need to stop saluting the Commander-in-Chief. He's supposed to be responsible to us, he's supposed to keep Petraeus and McChrystal's on a tight leash, not reward them with CIA leadership roles for failure (okay, it keeps Petraeus from challenging him for presidency, guess a decent political calculation there....). And we're responsible for not pushing him harder to end stupid wars, to bring soldiers home, to make our war machine smaller - a size that wards off attack, not encourages us to seek new adventures.

Maybe it was better when we had the draft, so that then everyone hated military service properly. Now, every clerk with an emblem on his soldier is a hero, and what were once mindless Sad Sack operations of moving sand piles around are now billowed up as "saving our freedoms". Our freedom isn't that precarious - our values are. We've pretty well put those up for sale.

I'm nostalgic for Patton - who understood war's to make some other dumb son-of-a-bitch die for his country, that dying is failure, that getting your troops killed is failure, that driving across Europe with the lowest casualties ever was success, that getting in and getting out was success, that wasn't preening himself for politics like McArthur.

I'm nostalgic for Truman and Marshall, who understood the goals of rebuilding devastation. Truman had the vantage of being a tiny little soldier in a huge machine, who understood the devastation up close.

Now we have a military that's just a political pawn, keep us engaged so we shut our mouths. LOL.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO

Richard Day — Tue, 29 May 2012 02:35:39 +0000

In reply to We need to stop saluting the ‘generals’

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SEE!

The GENERALS, THE GENERALIZATIONS...

Yeah good for you!

Like I contend, if these repubs running for the Presidency say they will only do what the generals tell them to do we should only be a military dictatorship!

Damn!

Well said.

GI Joe, that is what I say. hahahahahah

Oh this is goooooooooooood!

Makes me feel better.