dagblog - Comments for "A Piece of The Action. The Rise of Gangster Capitalism in the Face of Systemic Collapse." http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/piece-action-rise-gangster-capitalism-face-systemic-collapse-14072 Comments for "A Piece of The Action. The Rise of Gangster Capitalism in the Face of Systemic Collapse." en That's Blackwaters job? http://dagblog.com/comment/157985#comment-157985 <a id="comment-157985"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/157982#comment-157982">Works for me. Hey maybe we</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>That's Blackwaters job? </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:48:00 +0000 Resistance comment 157985 at http://dagblog.com Works for me. Hey maybe we http://dagblog.com/comment/157982#comment-157982 <a id="comment-157982"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/157981#comment-157981">&quot;Tear down this</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Works for me. Hey maybe we can get the garbage taken care of now.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:39:19 +0000 cmaukonen comment 157982 at http://dagblog.com "Tear down this http://dagblog.com/comment/157981#comment-157981 <a id="comment-157981"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/157975#comment-157975">Waddya talking about, it&#039;s</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>"Tear down this wall".</p> <p>Imagine the "Combination" saying </p> <p>The families can work together, we are not really that different.</p> <p>We need to stop the gang wars, it's costing the families to much.</p> <p>The Democrats will take New York and Chicago; the Republicans, Florida.</p> <p>Each Don, will respect each others territory or sphere of influence.</p> <p>Each of us will have a share in Afghanistan, for the opium. </p> <p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder,_Inc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder,_Inc</a>.</p> <p><span class="mw-headline" id="Known_members">Known members</span></p> <ul><li> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_Luciano" title="Lucky Luciano">Charles "Lucky" Luciano</a>- Founder of the National Crime Syndicate, who used Murder, Inc. as their enforcers</li> <li> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meyer_Lansky" title="Meyer Lansky">Meyer Lansky</a>- Luciano's right-hand man in the National Crime Syndicate, who helped form Murder, Inc.</li> <li> <a class="mw-redirect" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Siegel" title="Benjamin Siegel">Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegel</a>- helped form it alongside other mobsters</li> </ul></div></div></div> Mon, 25 Jun 2012 23:33:12 +0000 Resistance comment 157981 at http://dagblog.com The problem is that they http://dagblog.com/comment/157976#comment-157976 <a id="comment-157976"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/157975#comment-157975">Waddya talking about, it&#039;s</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The problem is that they can't get the Trilateral Commission to align its strategic plan with theirs.  This creates for unpredictability and emergent features which they cannot contain.  Moreover, they have not been able to fully suppress the trickster antics of the Club of Rome and the Illuminati.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:48:47 +0000 Elusive Trope comment 157976 at http://dagblog.com Waddya talking about, it's http://dagblog.com/comment/157975#comment-157975 <a id="comment-157975"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/157974#comment-157974">Societies of course never</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Waddya talking about, it's really very simple--"they" plan out what's going to happen each year at the Bilderberg Group meeting! <img alt="cheeky" height="20" src="http://dagblog.com/modules/ckeditor/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/tounge_smile.gif" title="cheeky" width="20" /></p> </div></div></div> Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:43:19 +0000 artappraiser comment 157975 at http://dagblog.com Societies of course never http://dagblog.com/comment/157974#comment-157974 <a id="comment-157974"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/piece-action-rise-gangster-capitalism-face-systemic-collapse-14072">A Piece of The Action. The Rise of Gangster Capitalism in the Face of Systemic Collapse.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Societies of course never stand completely still.  There is a constant unfolding as the various entities respond and respond to each other.  Each day the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_adaptive_system">complex adaptive system</a> which is the global economic system becomes more complex.  In this sense, no particular system is sustainable - there are too many non-linear interactions, which will force the system to keep morphing into something else.</p> <p>On the other hand, particular elements, like the "crime bosses" with their network of influence through which they control the system could be sustainable for relatively long period of time. </p> <p>Because of technology and the expansion of multi-national economic entities that are not controlled by any one single country, I believe we are embarking on a system which has no historical precedence. In other words, comparing it to single state examples, like Russia, has significant limitations.  If the controlling entities operated outside the state system, the recourse for the people, even through street actions like OWS, are severely limited.  Their own governments become powerless to alter the behavior of the global economic entities who operate outside their jurisdiction.</p> <p>Yet because they are necessary - ie we can't just stop banking or importing manufacturing materials - the governments are basically forced to stand by and allow them to operate.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:37:51 +0000 Elusive Trope comment 157974 at http://dagblog.com Maybe even the ATF and the http://dagblog.com/comment/157951#comment-157951 <a id="comment-157951"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/157946#comment-157946">Thanks. I do think that with</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Maybe even the ATF and the Border Patrol has become corrupted?</p> <p>Isn't there a prohibition of guns in Mexico?</p> <p>Al Capone found a way to make a buck, during our prohibition of liquor.</p> <p>Remember the St Valentines day massacre; the victims were rounded up and commanded to turn around and lay down their weapons, by a man appearing to be a cop. </p> <p>Are we now between a hard place and a rock?</p> <p>Fear<em> Al-Qaeda</em> or the mob?     Distrust both</p> <p>Imagine what Capone could have done, with wiretapping capabilties, or drones.  </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:44:29 +0000 Resistance comment 157951 at http://dagblog.com Well I don't think it will be http://dagblog.com/comment/157949#comment-157949 <a id="comment-157949"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/157947#comment-157947">Thanks for this well-written</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Well I don't think it will be a case of acceptance or giving up. More like coming to the reality of the situation and living accordingly.</p> <p>The biggest problem with having this king of situation is that it's not self sustaining. Unlike the mob - which was as dependent on the government as it was working outside of it - a country cannot maintain a criminal type organization by itself and will have to change or be changed or collapse entirely.</p> <p>I brought up Orlov but do not completely agree with his assessment or rather his comparison with the former USSR because at the time of it's collapse and even after, it's envolvement with international finance and trade was minimal. </p> <p>Where as our is very intertwined. So not only do our PTB have and interest to maintain the current situation, so do other countries. But they to are not in great shape for similar reasons.</p> <p>We like to look at ourselves here as being some how separate from the rest of the world still, even though the vast percentage of our products come from over seas.</p> <p>It is the the best interests of the rest of the world to maintain our economy <strong><em>for the present</em></strong>.</p> <p>When this is no longer the case, we will be dropped like a hot potato. If the populace are paying attention, this will give us time to form appropriate measures to cope. If not, we're sunk.</p> <p>As for the right, well you know they live in a kind of dream land where everything is beautiful and nothing hurts. What is pissing them off is that the real world is now invading their dream world.</p> <p> </p> <div class="media_embed" height="386px" width="514px"> <iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="386px" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/vGl7WuaIuaA" width="514px"></iframe></div> <p> </p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 25 Jun 2012 04:24:03 +0000 cmaukonen comment 157949 at http://dagblog.com Thanks for this well-written http://dagblog.com/comment/157947#comment-157947 <a id="comment-157947"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/piece-action-rise-gangster-capitalism-face-systemic-collapse-14072">A Piece of The Action. The Rise of Gangster Capitalism in the Face of Systemic Collapse.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Thanks for this well-written piece.   It depresses the heck out of me, but it's hard to deny that it is what's happening.  So how long do you think it'll be before we reach the acceptance stage and give up?</p> <p>P.S. I've always laughed at how the Right has been forced to embrace the delusion that given the option, people will always do the right thing.  To them, it's why regulations are un-necessary. And no-one in the media even smirks at how ridiculous that is.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 25 Jun 2012 03:27:13 +0000 MrSmith1 comment 157947 at http://dagblog.com Thanks. I do think that with http://dagblog.com/comment/157946#comment-157946 <a id="comment-157946"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/157932#comment-157932">I appreciate you keeping us</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Thanks.</p> <p>I do think that with all the paranoid talk on the right and left of us winding up with some fascist/communist dictatorial model, that these have both been summarily discarded some time ago.</p> <p>That the mafia model is the more likely interim situation as we can now see being implemented.</p> <p>Especially when you see the "privatization" of so much with the resultant kick backs, bribes and out and out fraud involved.  </p> <p>The list is growing all the time. The FEC, SEC, CDC, Food and Drug, Education, Justice,  FCC...the list is endless. And the criminalization of whistle blowing.  HA they really do not like "wiseguys" and snitches.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 25 Jun 2012 03:26:24 +0000 cmaukonen comment 157946 at http://dagblog.com