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Ina related vein, this

Donal — Sat, 14 Jul 2012 01:09:38 +0000

In reply to Affirmative Action for the Win

Ina related vein, this article talks about Dalits trying to pull equal with upper caste students. Some of the commenters sound much like the opponents to Affirmative Action.

Upon further review, I'd like

Doctor Cleveland — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:27:05 +0000

In reply to It cannot be seriously

Upon further review, I'd like to note Roger's helpful lack of any evidence for his assertions.

It cannot be seriously

Roger Clegg, Ctr for Equal Opportunity — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 18:56:56 +0000

In reply to I'd like to note Roger's

It cannot be seriously disputed that universities today use racial preferences in admissions -- that is, that they admit students of some races on the basis of race despite the fact that they have lower academic qualifications than students of other races who are turned away. My organization has published numerous studies documenting this: http://www.ceousa.org/affirmative-action/affirmative-action-news/education But universities don't deny that they weigh race in admissions -- see, e.g., Bowen & Bok, The Shape of the River (1998).

I'd like to note Roger's

Doctor Cleveland — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:41:06 +0000

In reply to It's great when schools

I'd like to note Roger's helpful lack of any evidence for his assertions.

I saw something on corporate

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:16:49 +0000

In reply to It's great when schools

I saw something on corporate training that noted that the bottom 20% can't be trained or will fail anyway, and the top 20% don't really need it, so the mid-60% is where the best bang for the training buck lies.

Schools aren't there just to provide scholarships & research facilities for the brightest - they're there to help improve the abilities of our youth - to provide life skills and job skills for the future society - people who can function well in a range of professions from cutting edge to the more plentiful mundane occupations.

While it may be social engineering, improving the opportunity among disadvantaged groups is part of the function and goal of education.

Also, this "now" is quite old at this point. We've been targeting underrepresented minorities, geographic regions and say women in engineering for what over 40 years now? Places like Chapel Hill now have high tech local centers of industry - is it a problem that this was affirmative action? (that helped whites as much or more than blacks, by the way)

Who will stand up for the

William K. Wolfrum — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:58:09 +0000

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Who will stand up for the White man???!!!

Center for Equal Opportunity:

Donal — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:50:36 +0000

In reply to It's great when schools

Center for Equal Opportunity: Their home page and a description on SourceWatch.

It's great when schools

Roger Clegg, Ctr for Equal Opportunity — Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:09:09 +0000

In reply to Affirmative Action for the Win

It's great when schools search far and wide to ensure that they admit the best qualified students. Unfortunately, however, the common practice now is for universities to admit students of some races who are less qualified than students of other races in order to reach a politically correct racial mix. There is no persuasive justification for this discrimination.