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Dr. Frankenstein: You know,

cmaukonen — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 23:06:13 +0000

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Dr. Frankenstein: You know, I'm a rather brilliant surgeon. Perhaps I can help you with that hump.

Igor: What hump?

Whitmore: The doctor seems reluctant to discuss his medical experiences.
Dr. Hackenbush: Well, medically, my experiences have been most unexciting. Except during the flu epidemic.
Whitmore: Ah, and what happened?
Dr. Hackenbush: I got the flu.

Great point again. I havn't

Oxy Mora — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 21:26:53 +0000

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Great point again. I havn't seen this parsed in the media at all and yet it seems like the ultimate reason not to experiment with what we already have as a guarantee.

Thanks for all the

CVille Dem — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 21:19:46 +0000

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Thanks for all the thoughtful comments. I have spent several days reviewing my future Medicare options, and even as a medical professional I realize that it is a complicated process as far as the initial choices go. I am very well aware about deductibles, and what the term, "assignment" means. I work in a small private medical office, and our office manager negotiates yearly to find the best options for us.

I can't imagine an 80-year old doing that year after year with an array of insurance companies who only want to cover those whose premiums will add up to less than the insurance company will pay out (less profits and advertising, etc).

Competition? Paul Ryan and his co-runner both know that when profit is the only goal, sick (or likely-to-be-sick) people are to be avoided at all costs. How do they avoid them? By making their prices completely outrageous for the elderly and therefore driving anyone with health problem out of their system.

Push them into a government system AND THEN UNDERFUND IT AND BREAK IT! Yep! That is the Republican Way!

Biden will be a big problem

moat — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 20:12:33 +0000

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Biden will be a big problem for Ryan. Biden was very consistent in his primary run for the 2008 election that huge outlays for military adventures was the biggest stumbling block toward fiscal sobriety regarding healthcare expenditures. Ryan's last budget proposal would have us slash "entitlements" sharply but double Defense spending.

I hear the grinding noise of sharpening knives coming from the old Delaware Hand.

Well presented, CDem. You put

Oxy Mora — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 20:11:06 +0000

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Well presented, CDem. You put the tire on the road. Who the hell wants to go back to the days when one wondered if something was going to be covered, or whether pre-existing conditions would again be in play?

Let's see. What is Ryan's

Flavius — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 19:01:34 +0000

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Let's see. What is Ryan's rationale for vouchers?

One suggestion by the media is that Ryan believes that users , shopping around with vouchers in hand , will cause the docs to lower their fees. But if that is the objective why did the Republicans ,surely including Ryan, when authorizing Medicare PlanD prohibit the Goverment from negotiating with Pharma to obtain the same sort of lower rates I enjoy when I buy meds through the VA- which does negotiate with Pharma.

Another is that vouchers ,simply,reduce the cost of Medicare .Full stop.

But if they do not reduce the docs fees how does that happen? In fact , it doesn't . The cost of Medicare won't be reduced ,instead it will be shifted to the patient paying more than they do now through copayments.

So "vouchers" translates into "patients pay more". Or go without needed medical care. And die.

And "saving Medicare" translates into "letting sick people die.Poor ones" .

Joe Nocera, and many in the media, are looking forward to the VP debate. Me too.

Paul Ryan is a clean cut , appealing liar.

AOBTW he's a fervent Catholic .With 3 children. Any Catholic or former one knows that means he's lying about that too.

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ocean-kat — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 18:51:23 +0000

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That just adds another

ocean-kat — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 18:48:37 +0000

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That just adds another question. If private insurers must accept the elderly with pre-existing conditions how are they going to pay for it? Obama pays for it with the individual mandate, the increase in young participants offsets the cost of accepting those with pre-existing conditions. Of course Romney hates the mandate. Its pretty clear that Ryan's voucher plan is just a way to slowly eliminate medicare. In the end it will leave most elderly without any health care whatsoever.

Great point, Kat.

Oxy Mora — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 12:20:10 +0000

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Great point, Kat. Pre-exisitng conditions in any privatization of Medicare is a huge issue. I havn't seen it mentioned anywhere in the media.

Of course Romney will say that a voucher program eliminates pre-exisiting conditions but how would you trust him.

Just a month ago I turned 55

ocean-kat — Fri, 17 Aug 2012 06:49:03 +0000

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Just a month ago I turned 55 so ten years from now its no vouchers for me. What Romney/Ryan is counting on is me and those older than me giving the finger to everyone younger than me and saying, "I got mine, screw you." That's not who I am and I don't think that's who most of those older than me are. I hope I'm right.

Romney is going to end Obamacare on day one he tells us. So that ends the requirement that insurance companies accept those with pre-existing conditions. Even if that voucher covered the average price of a policy for the average 65 year old, which it doesn't, how many people at 65 have no pre-existing conditions? The voucher would be worthless for a substantial portion of the elderly.

This is not just a opportunity for Obama to defend medicare. Its also an opportunity for him to explain and defend the Affordable Care Act.

dagblog - Comments for "Romney/Ryan Care --The Future as Captured in a You Tube Short"

Dr. Frankenstein: You know,

Great point again. I havn't

​Thanks for all the

Biden will be a big problem

Well presented, CDem. You put

Let's see. What is Ryan's

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That just adds another

Great point, Kat.

Just a month ago I turned 55

Thanks for all the