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Well. actually, we don't

jollyroger — Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:06:23 +0000

In reply to I'm not saying we can't do

Well. actually, we don't because we can't without a repeat of the objections raised by some repugnant (McConnell?) who whined that private carriers couldnt hope to compete with a public option because they needed to make a profit!

I'm not saying we can't do

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 29 Aug 2012 04:19:19 +0000

In reply to aggregating more

I'm not saying we can't do this - we don't.

Between the demand price and the supply price is supposed to be the consumer's margin.

In the health field that's become awfully slim - the providers take in profits their share and what should be our benefits of service. Instead it's a rather joyless straight gouging.

aggregating more

jollyroger — Wed, 29 Aug 2012 00:12:48 +0000

In reply to Medicare Sux: Overcharging lesson for liberals

aggregating more participants, improving medical infosystems, leveraging advances in pharmaceutical production and genetic analysis and understanding of physiological systems. We already have a system which does this: The VA. For starters, if one were able to.bring a prescription otherwise commanding a mammoth co-pay under MedD to the VA pharmacy, where the "buy in" was 25% per month of the meds premium, this alone would save individuals AND the fisc serious money. Extend to non-medicare individuals and you.have begun to flatten that cost curve. Widen the intervention to permit full VA buy in (voluntary) and you will crush the insurers.

Okey doke, "part of the

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 17:38:31 +0000

In reply to I'll concede this may be part

Okey doke, "part of the problem".

And I agree with the K.I.S.S. delivery principle.

I'll concede this may be part

Aunt Sam — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 17:20:40 +0000

In reply to No, the reason, as Bob

I'll concede this may be part of the problem, but IMO there's other elements of this conundrum that are impacting this issue.

To your point tho', again I say, seal the message with a K.I.S.S. delivery.

No, the reason, as Bob

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 17:04:28 +0000

In reply to Oh, did I mention we're

No, the reason, as Bob Somerby keeps pointing out, is that we can't simply explain what happened to that $716 billion - where it came from, how it was used.

http://dailyhowler.blogspot.cz/2012/08/medicare-muddle-take-medicare-mud...

And if one side says "Obama stole it from Medicare" and the other side says "mislfzzts... waskaloodl....pffswolla...you racist lying bastards!!!" which one is going to triumph?

Oh, did I mention we're

Aunt Sam — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 16:17:00 +0000

In reply to Medicare Sux: Overcharging lesson for liberals

Oh, did I mention we're getting our asses kicked because we can't respond to "dumb" Romney?

I'm waiting for those who believe it's because of the huge $$$$ gap in campaign funds (thanks to citizens united) to begin the David v. Goliath meme.

As I've stated before, Obama's campaign rhetoric has to quit being reactive and be proactive.

The polling says that the seniors are not supportive of anything that will negatively impact their medicare and social security. But, does the majority of them feel the same about their children's and grandchildren's like benefits? That's not something I'm aware has been part of the factoring and/or campaign with any intensity.

Obama is up with new Medicare

Oxy Mora — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:09:36 +0000

In reply to Medicare Sux: Overcharging lesson for liberals

Obama is up with new Medicare ad.

"Mitt Romney---an end to the Medicare Promise.

...their escape route.

rmrd0000 — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:06:21 +0000

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...their escape route.

The overpayment aspect of our

rmrd0000 — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:02:28 +0000

In reply to Medicare Sux: Overcharging lesson for liberals

The overpayment aspect of our healthcare system is well known. We will eventually wind up with single payer. Much of our no emergent health will be delivered by nurses and physician assistants. Given the way government operates there has to be two parties willing to compromise. That is not the case.

A previous column by the same author titled "GOP to the Uninsured Drop Dead" notes that one side wants to repeal the Affordable Care Act and six of it's Governors say that they won't go along with Medicare expansion. The idler reminds us of the Republicans shouting "Let Him Die" answering the question posed to Ron Paul about the fate of an ill, uninsured man. How do you compromise with that position?Legislators feeding red meat to that constituency are a roadblock that cannot be ignored.

Single payer is coming. Instead of despair, I see a baby step towards the inevitable. Once it's done, the GOP will point to the GOP genius in Massachusetts who originated the idea. A lesson learned during the Civil Rights era was after any slight victory, you got up the next day with the motto, "The Fight Goes On".

We're not F'd. The Republicans are F'd in the log term. As I note above, they have already planned there escape route (the Massachusetts miracle)