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Not really a fan. Of either.

EmmaZahn — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 01:18:30 +0000

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Not really a fan. Of either. Anarchism is too utopian and Emma Goldman, as interesting as she and her views were/are, was too fond of forcing change with violence.

I am more anti-totalitarian than anti-authoritarian. I am willing to accept rational authority, rule of law, social contract, etc. even when I do not agree with all of it (been doing that my whole life) as long as there are real ways to work for peaceful, evolutionary change. I do not like to be told what I must think either directly or indirectly, especially indirectly.

As to the validity of the

cmaukonen — Thu, 06 Sep 2012 23:34:11 +0000

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As to the validity of the test(s), not such test is any more valid than the honesty with which the questions are answered. And we tend to see ourselves very differently than those around us see us.

A poem by Robert Burns.

O wad some Pow'r the giftie gie us
To see oursels as ithers see us!

Unfortunately those in this

cmaukonen — Thu, 06 Sep 2012 22:41:30 +0000

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Unfortunately those in this country who call themselves Libertarians aren't.

I see myself as a Libertarian in the European Anarchist sense. Like Emma Goldman.

As is well known, anarchists use the terms “libertarian”, “libertarian socialist” and “libertarian communist” as equivalent to “anarchist” and, similarly, “libertarian socialism” or “libertarian communism” as an alternative for “anarchism.” This is perfectly understandable, as the anarchist goal is freedom, liberty, and the ending of all hierarchical and authoritarian institutions and social relations.

Unfortunately, in the United States the term “libertarian” has become, since the 1970s, associated with the right-wing, i.e., supporters of “free-market” capitalism. That defenders of the hierarchy associated with private property seek to associate the term “libertarian” for their authoritarian system is both unfortunate and somewhat unbelievable to any genuine libertarian. Equally unfortunately, thanks to the power of money and the relative small size of the anarchist movement in America, this appropriation of the term has become, to a large extent, the default meaning there. Somewhat ironically, this results in some right-wing “libertarians” complaining that we genuine libertarians have “stolen” their name in order to associate our socialist ideas with it!

And I am highly anti-authoritarian.

You might like this site

EmmaZahn — Thu, 06 Sep 2012 22:15:16 +0000

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You might like this site based on your Political Compass:

Bleeding Heart Libertarians

I bookmarked it but never seem to get around to reading it. Libertarians are just sooooo verbose.

There are a way too many assumptions built into both quizzes to be really meaningful. Unfortunately, people like to label themselves and those new to following politics may too readily accept their assignment based on them, like horoscopes and personality types.

It would be terrific if there was a really comprehensive test that required specific answers to pointed questions. Probably not in my lifetime either.

Great song! This reminds me

Richard Day — Thu, 06 Sep 2012 20:58:44 +0000

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Great song!

This reminds me again of Representative Emanuel Cleaver.

Cleaver--what a name for a Black Man.

Color me as a liberal he says!

Color me as a Democrat.

This was a great speech given yesterday that I missed.

Representative Cleaver is one hell of an orator!